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California’s primary system flummoxes Democrats, GOP
The Hill ^ | 06/05/18 | Reid Wilson

Posted on 06/05/2018 9:51:23 AM PDT by Simon Green

Eight years after California voters bucked party leaders to establish a “jungle” primary system, Democrats and Republicans alike have serious misgivings about the system as voters head to the polls on Tuesday for a critical day of voting.

Republicans accuse the open primary system, in which the candidates finishing one and two in voting will advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation, of seriously damaging their already wounded party in the Golden State.

“It’s not doing what it was laid out to do. It’s making campaigns more expensive, it’s making it harder for people to run,” House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said in an interview Sunday. “Everything about it is bad. I think it should be removed.”

Since the jungle primary was approved, the number of registered Republicans has fallen by about half a million, while the number of registered Democrats has risen by about 900,000.

The number of voters who register without a party preference has risen by 1.4 million; for the first time in state history, nonaffiliated voters outnumber registered Republicans.

“I think [the top-two primary] has destroyed the Republican Party,” McCarthy said. “You get fewer people running. You get fewer ideas debated.”

Democrats are worried that crowded fields, inspired by energy on the left, puts them at risk of missing out on key seats. So many candidates could divide the Democratic electorate enough that two Republicans might advance to the general election in November — as happened four years ago, when Rep. Steve Knight (R) and a fellow Republican advanced in what could have been a winnable seat for Democrats.

The jungle primary was supposed to incentivize moderate stands and bipartisan compromise, but this year’s contests showcase a bevy of contenders who have entrenched themselves even further into their partisan corners.

Democrats and Republicans opposed to the open primary argue it has lowered voter turnout, while third parties complain they’re being eliminated from the general election ballot altogether.

On paper, Josh Harder, a venture capitalist running as a Democrat for a seat held by Rep. Jeff Denham (R), seems the prototype of a candidate who could benefit from an appeal to centrists.

The fifth-generation district resident who graduated from a local public high school before shepherding companies such as Blue Apron now spends his time teaching business basics to community college students who want to open taco trucks or auto body repair shops.

But on a recent day knocking on doors in this commuter suburb of Stockton and Oakland, Harder is pitching voters on a much more liberal cause: universal health care. Some voters reacted with big smiles and hearty handshakes. Others, like three bearded men in Judas Priest T-shirts, politely declined to take Harder’s flyer.

“At the end of the day, the focus that we’ve had on the issues is exactly the same as it would be regardless of the primary,” Harder said. “What [the top-two primary] actually ends up doing is consolidating [Democratic] support behind the front-runner — which is us.”

Supporters of the top-two system say candidates like Harder are still evidence that the new scheme is working. Instead of holding partisan nominating contests on the taxpayer dime, they say, voters now get to pick the two best candidates regardless of party affiliation. Angst among party operatives is a feature, not a bug.

“This is how things should be. Political parties should be constantly worried about whether their message and their candidates and their standard-bearers are attractive to the people,” said John Opdycke, president of Open Primaries, a group that backed the original ballot measure to establish California’s system. “They’ll have to start being much more responsive and connected to the American people.”

Opdycke said the coalition that backed the jungle primary system — a group that included business organizations, most of the state’s largest editorial boards and then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) — included some who believed the new system would incentivize moderation. But, he said, moderation is no clear-cut concept in a nation of 330 million residents.

“I think it’s one of these myths that people talk about. I don’t think people are middle of the road, I think they’re all over the road. The average American has views that are left, that are right, that are libertarian and socialist and all over the place,” he said. “Gov. Schwarzenegger was very clear in saying that it was about returning power to the people and taking it away from the parties.”

But those who opposed the measure initially, a bipartisan coalition of party operatives and campaign strategists, say the top-two system has shifted focus to the primary — making races too expensive, diminishing the role of third parties and putting more power in the hands of fewer voters who show up in primary elections.

There are few signs the system has led to more centrist candidates. None of the candidates in a crowded field for governor have cast themselves as a successor to outgoing Gov. Jerry Brown (D), a moderate fiscal hawk who has filled the state’s rainy-day fund.

Instead, the leading Democratic contenders, Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom and former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, have pledged new spending on social programs. The leading Republicans, businessman John Cox and Assemblyman Travis Allen, are pitching themselves as Tea Party allies of President Trump.

John Pitney, a political scientist at Claremont McKenna College and a former spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said candidates are sticking with the old-school tactics that used to win primary campaigns — driving turnout among base voters, rather than appealing to independents — because those hardcore partisans still make up the bulk of the primary electorate. Independents, he said, still don’t vote in sufficient numbers to demand attention.

“Republicans are in a Republican silo. Democrats are in a Democratic silo. And independents don’t show up in the numbers that one might hope,” Pitney said.

Others point to a small coalition of business-friendly Democrats in the otherwise-liberal state legislature that has been able to nudge the agenda to the middle.

“Even critics who worry that the [jungle primary] is having unintended effects acknowledge that it has produced a Legislature that is more open to compromise,” the San Diego Union-Tribune’s conservative editorial board wrote this month. “The state has benefited from the emergence of an informal caucus of moderate, business-friendly Democrats.”

Pitney pointed to high-stakes gambits by supporters of Villaraigosa, who are attacking Republican Cox as a phony conservative, and by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which is running radio ads benefiting a little-known Republican in a district held by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R) to ensure a Democrat makes the runoff.

The top-two primary “is really encouraging a lot of gamesmanship,” he said. “It’s fascinating for political junkies to watch, but it’s just confusing for regular voters.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 06/05/2018 9:51:23 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

There are more unaffiliateds in CA than Republicans.

Gee, I wonder why. I am an unaffiliated conservative.


2 posted on 06/05/2018 9:57:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Simon Green

and I’m worried about illegals voting, and the massive voting fraud which goes on in CA.


3 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:22 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: Simon Green

Mexico North is a tough spot for the GOP.


4 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:48 AM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: Simon Green
...Democrats and Republicans alike have serious misgivings about the system as voters head to the polls...

Because they should be in control, not the voters.

5 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Simon Green

I very much do not agree with the open primary system. Closed party primaries that are open to candidates within the party is the way to go. Yes that lowers the influence of the “independents” but they can go form their own parties if they want.


6 posted on 06/05/2018 10:00:11 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Simon Green

Incentivize moderates, my ass. The purpose of the initiative was to ensure that as many general races as possible would just be between the top two Democrats from the jungle primary, and that’s how it’s often turned out. I’m hoping that some of the anomalous results some are predicting in today’s primary, where for some races only republicans advance to the general, actually come about. If so we’ll see repeal of jungle primary in short order


7 posted on 06/05/2018 10:03:30 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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To: Simon Green
On Thursday, November 19, 1863 in Gettysburg, PA, Abe Lincoln spoke of "... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”.

Moonbeam and his associates are more interested in "... government of the people government by the people government, for the people government, shall not perish from the earth Californication”.

8 posted on 06/05/2018 10:11:20 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Simon Green

In much of California the California GOP abandoned Senate and Assembly districts to the Democrats and they’ve even opposed their own people who tried to run for ‘safe’ Democrat seats.

The GOP deserves the open primary system because the idiots didn’t even try to compete in that state.

In the recent election (today) there are 21 of 80 Assembly races where NO REPUBLICAN is running!

In the Senate there are 6 of 40 races where NO REPUBLICAN is running!

The CA GOP can’t even fail in those races because they don’t even TRY.

The upside of the open primary is that the Republicans in those districts at least count when they pick a Democrat candidate.


9 posted on 06/05/2018 10:31:00 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Simon Green

I voted today. The good news is I had to show an ID. Do not know if that is state wide or just my polling place.

The “Jungle” primary was pushed by Democrats who were being cute. The top two vote getters would move on to the November ballot. So last election almost all choices was between two Democrats.

This time I noticed that for most offices the Republicans only had one candidate running while the Democrats would have four or five. There just might be a Republican or two on the November ballot.

California elections (because it is a one party state with a lapdog media) is turning into a corrupt dictatorship. Fortunately they don’t believe in walls so people are allowed to leave.


10 posted on 06/05/2018 10:36:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
This time I noticed that for most offices the Republicans only had one candidate running while the Democrats would have four or five. There just might be a Republican or two on the November ballot.

My technique is simple...If I am given only one choice for anything, or just one Republican listed, I write in a cartoon character or Hillary Rodham.

11 posted on 06/05/2018 10:44:13 AM PDT by publius911
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To: Simon Green
I was never a fan of the California top-two system. It forced me to have to choose between Pete Stark and Eric Swalwell for the House of Representatives.

To me, primaries are supposed to be internal party business. What California did was make the primary the first round of a single elimination tournament. No longer can your party's top choice be assured a spot on the general ballot.

-PJ

12 posted on 06/05/2018 10:54:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I should have clarified:

What California did was make the primary the first round of a single elimination tournament with no brackets.

-PJ

13 posted on 06/05/2018 10:56:20 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: publius911

In this kind of primary, the smart party only runs one candidate, especially in a district where they have little chance of winning.


14 posted on 06/05/2018 11:02:30 AM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever!)
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To: manc

sheer insanity when you allow voters from the other parties to determine who YOUR possible primary picks are OVERRIDING YOUR party.


15 posted on 06/05/2018 11:48:26 AM PDT by elbook
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To: Simon Green

Union voters and Latinos gave the dems exactly what they asked for. This way of picking candidates is what dems wanted. It was there way to kill off the republican (or any other) party


16 posted on 06/05/2018 12:02:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Simon Green

“I think [the top-two primary] has destroyed the Republican Party,” McCarthy said. “You get fewer people running. You get fewer ideas debated.”

Bullpucky! I just tried to make some sense of my CA ballot, replete with 40 odd candidates for Governor and Lt. Governor before going to vote. And some of those running have one line candidate statements, with one idiot running for the Senate seat platform being against 5G phone service because of the “radiation danger!”
We almost decided that it wasn’t worth the gas to drive five or six blocks to the polling station.


17 posted on 06/05/2018 12:12:06 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Political Junkie Too

“It forced me to have to choose between Pete Stark and Eric Swalwell for the House of Representatives.”

Your poor ba$tard, that’s like having to choose between $hit and Shinola. Glad I live in Contra Costa.


18 posted on 06/05/2018 12:17:15 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Simon Green

We need to go back to closed primaries and stop this open vote for anyone bullshit!


19 posted on 06/05/2018 12:20:01 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: vette6387
Yeah, I remember back when the district (CA-10 back then) went all the way to Benicia and was Republican until Ellen Tauscher beat Bill Baker by having a heckler goad him into an argument that was videotaped for a negative ad.

-PJ

20 posted on 06/05/2018 12:28:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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