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California’s primary system flummoxes Democrats, GOP
The Hill ^ | 06/05/18 | Reid Wilson

Posted on 06/05/2018 9:51:23 AM PDT by Simon Green

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1 posted on 06/05/2018 9:51:23 AM PDT by Simon Green
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There are more unaffiliateds in CA than Republicans.

Gee, I wonder why. I am an unaffiliated conservative.


2 posted on 06/05/2018 9:57:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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and I’m worried about illegals voting, and the massive voting fraud which goes on in CA.


3 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:22 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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Mexico North is a tough spot for the GOP.


4 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:48 AM PDT by Dagnabitt
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...Democrats and Republicans alike have serious misgivings about the system as voters head to the polls...

Because they should be in control, not the voters.

5 posted on 06/05/2018 9:59:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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I very much do not agree with the open primary system. Closed party primaries that are open to candidates within the party is the way to go. Yes that lowers the influence of the “independents” but they can go form their own parties if they want.


6 posted on 06/05/2018 10:00:11 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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Incentivize moderates, my ass. The purpose of the initiative was to ensure that as many general races as possible would just be between the top two Democrats from the jungle primary, and that’s how it’s often turned out. I’m hoping that some of the anomalous results some are predicting in today’s primary, where for some races only republicans advance to the general, actually come about. If so we’ll see repeal of jungle primary in short order


7 posted on 06/05/2018 10:03:30 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,000 Posts as of 8/11/17! Still not shutting up after all these years!)
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On Thursday, November 19, 1863 in Gettysburg, PA, Abe Lincoln spoke of "... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”.

Moonbeam and his associates are more interested in "... government of the people government by the people government, for the people government, shall not perish from the earth Californication”.

8 posted on 06/05/2018 10:11:20 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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In much of California the California GOP abandoned Senate and Assembly districts to the Democrats and they’ve even opposed their own people who tried to run for ‘safe’ Democrat seats.

The GOP deserves the open primary system because the idiots didn’t even try to compete in that state.

In the recent election (today) there are 21 of 80 Assembly races where NO REPUBLICAN is running!

In the Senate there are 6 of 40 races where NO REPUBLICAN is running!

The CA GOP can’t even fail in those races because they don’t even TRY.

The upside of the open primary is that the Republicans in those districts at least count when they pick a Democrat candidate.


9 posted on 06/05/2018 10:31:00 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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I voted today. The good news is I had to show an ID. Do not know if that is state wide or just my polling place.

The “Jungle” primary was pushed by Democrats who were being cute. The top two vote getters would move on to the November ballot. So last election almost all choices was between two Democrats.

This time I noticed that for most offices the Republicans only had one candidate running while the Democrats would have four or five. There just might be a Republican or two on the November ballot.

California elections (because it is a one party state with a lapdog media) is turning into a corrupt dictatorship. Fortunately they don’t believe in walls so people are allowed to leave.


10 posted on 06/05/2018 10:36:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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This time I noticed that for most offices the Republicans only had one candidate running while the Democrats would have four or five. There just might be a Republican or two on the November ballot.

My technique is simple...If I am given only one choice for anything, or just one Republican listed, I write in a cartoon character or Hillary Rodham.

11 posted on 06/05/2018 10:44:13 AM PDT by publius911
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I was never a fan of the California top-two system. It forced me to have to choose between Pete Stark and Eric Swalwell for the House of Representatives.

To me, primaries are supposed to be internal party business. What California did was make the primary the first round of a single elimination tournament. No longer can your party's top choice be assured a spot on the general ballot.

-PJ

12 posted on 06/05/2018 10:54:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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I should have clarified:

What California did was make the primary the first round of a single elimination tournament with no brackets.

-PJ

13 posted on 06/05/2018 10:56:20 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: publius911

In this kind of primary, the smart party only runs one candidate, especially in a district where they have little chance of winning.


14 posted on 06/05/2018 11:02:30 AM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever!)
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sheer insanity when you allow voters from the other parties to determine who YOUR possible primary picks are OVERRIDING YOUR party.


15 posted on 06/05/2018 11:48:26 AM PDT by elbook
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Union voters and Latinos gave the dems exactly what they asked for. This way of picking candidates is what dems wanted. It was there way to kill off the republican (or any other) party


16 posted on 06/05/2018 12:02:47 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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“I think [the top-two primary] has destroyed the Republican Party,” McCarthy said. “You get fewer people running. You get fewer ideas debated.”

Bullpucky! I just tried to make some sense of my CA ballot, replete with 40 odd candidates for Governor and Lt. Governor before going to vote. And some of those running have one line candidate statements, with one idiot running for the Senate seat platform being against 5G phone service because of the “radiation danger!”
We almost decided that it wasn’t worth the gas to drive five or six blocks to the polling station.


17 posted on 06/05/2018 12:12:06 PM PDT by vette6387
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“It forced me to have to choose between Pete Stark and Eric Swalwell for the House of Representatives.”

Your poor ba$tard, that’s like having to choose between $hit and Shinola. Glad I live in Contra Costa.


18 posted on 06/05/2018 12:17:15 PM PDT by vette6387
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We need to go back to closed primaries and stop this open vote for anyone bullshit!


19 posted on 06/05/2018 12:20:01 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Yeah, I remember back when the district (CA-10 back then) went all the way to Benicia and was Republican until Ellen Tauscher beat Bill Baker by having a heckler goad him into an argument that was videotaped for a negative ad.

-PJ

20 posted on 06/05/2018 12:28:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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