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The Origins of Our Second Civil War
NRO ^ | 31 July 2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/31/2018 7:01:18 AM PDT by lowbuck

Edited on 07/31/2018 8:42:48 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Globalism, the tech boom, illegal immigration, campus radicalism, the new racialism . . . Are they leading us toward an 1861? How, when, and why has the United States now arrived at the brink of a veritable civil war?

Almost every cultural and social institution

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; culture; culturewars; cw2; origins; politicized; vdh
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To: lowbuck

bump for later


41 posted on 07/31/2018 7:57:17 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Supposed “Conservatives: have got to let go of their infantile idiocy that being critical of both sides somehow make them look “intelligent”

No, it make you look like a poltical idiot.

Ds vote against Trump, Rs vote with him. It pure poltical idiocy to spend all your time trying to manufacture a fraudulent moral equivalence between the two sides

We at war and you spend all you time shooting your own allies in the back

Your sort of idiot pretending to be “Arch Conservative” is the best PR bots the DNC have. You are a poltical ignorant traitor.


42 posted on 07/31/2018 7:58:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (2016: For the first time since 1984, I voted for a Rep President all other votes were anti Dem)
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To: stanne

The Bush League Republicans always use the same playbook. Crowd the field with blockers so that their amnesty candidate squeaks out a win.

Joe Arpaio is playing the role of blocker for McSallycain in AZ right now.


43 posted on 07/31/2018 7:59:15 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

As long as they are replaced during primaries by “R” conservatives...


44 posted on 07/31/2018 8:00:19 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, someone needs to get going in SC. NOW


45 posted on 07/31/2018 8:00:53 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Many of our elected have disproven this with their actions

Provide three examples since Jan 2017 to back up this claim that the GOP is "as bad as the Dems' as you post adnausme on every thread daily.

Your sort of mindless screaming foolishness indicates a total ignorance of how politics work. The DNC loves your sort of political idiot because you do their work for them while pretending to be "Conservative".

46 posted on 07/31/2018 8:02:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (2016: For the first time since 1984, I voted for a Rep President all other votes were anti Dem)
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To: MNJohnnie

Keep voting for GOP amnesty candidates and you will get amnesty and a permanent Democrat majority.

We are at war for the survival of the nation and you want to keep arming the people shooting US in the back.


47 posted on 07/31/2018 8:04:03 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: henkster

The government is no longer the guarantor of the loan, the university is. As it should be.

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That’s an excellent idea! If the universities are so confident that their degree mills will produce employable graduates, THEY should be the one’s guaranteeing the loans, or a least share in the risk of backing them.

Further, when the government keeps doling out loans to students the obvious result is going to be a steady increase in tuition. The government is subsidizing the universities, if not enriching them.

And their “product” keeps getting worse every year. Our so-called education system has become a scam. Its a national scandal that needs to be exposed.


48 posted on 07/31/2018 8:09:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: chris37
Free people and the American Left cannot coexist.

We're always going to have a left side of the bell curve trying to loot the right side. There is a way to coexist that is already starting to play out: let the big cities go socialist, let them have their own big gov taxes and laws, as long as the socialism stays within city limits. Most left siders live in the cities and will accept that in exchange for leaving alone the American people that feed, water, heat, power, and protect them.

Socialism is the greatest weapon of mass destruction ever invented and even better it only attacks fake Americans. Rather than burn our cities to the ground just plant little red book poison bait in them and let the trojan horse ideas explode in the mush heads of our ever present fools.

49 posted on 07/31/2018 8:18:08 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: precisionshootist

We must re-elect the swamp in order to drain the swamp.

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Sardonic, but somewhat true. The Swamp is vast and deep. Probably worse than Trump ever imagined.

DC is all about money, power and control. Its a corrosive environment that compromises most people who work there. The best Trump can do is try to cut drainage ditches to remove some of the water that sustains the Swamp. In other words, divert the money, dilute their power, and remove the creatures that control the flow of resources.


50 posted on 07/31/2018 8:20:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: MNJohnnie

McCain, Graham, Rubio, Hatch, Hoeven, Heller, Murkowsky, Flake, Corker, Alexander all voted for amnesty and a permanent Democrat majority.


51 posted on 07/31/2018 8:21:19 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Starboard

Trump cannot remove the Swamp monsters, we have to do that.


52 posted on 07/31/2018 8:22:53 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“BOTH parties conspired to violate the Constitution.”

Exactly why McCain had to be the R candidate since he required a special dispensation due to the circumstances of his foreign birth at a US military facility in Panama.


53 posted on 07/31/2018 8:23:47 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: chris37

“free people and the American Left cannot coexist.”

Fully agree. We need to make it clear that the Left has clearly said it is willing to burn this nation to the ground if it means they can regain their power. There are enough real quotes from Dems and Leftists to make that clear from Hillary (deplorable), Obama (bitter climgers), Pelosi (crumbs) to pundits wishing for an economic collapse, to calls for violence against Republicans and conservatives, to so much more that an effective generic advertisement could marshall to demonstrate this truth.


54 posted on 07/31/2018 8:23:56 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: lowbuck

Yes, we have two groups with different visions of America. However, everyone is too comfortable so the second Civil War is not possible at this point of time.


55 posted on 07/31/2018 8:30:49 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Wonder Warthog

It dates back to the last one.


56 posted on 07/31/2018 8:35:06 AM PDT by Midnitethecat
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To: MNJohnnie

The Mueller investigation. It would be completely impossible to continue if the GOP did not have Trump under an impeachment threat if he fired Mueller. Two, the same threat exists for firing Jeff sessions. Three, failure to repeal Obamacare period. Four, insistence upon amnesty and absolute resistance to securing the Border. Yes, the GOP is a mere handmaiden to the dems. Adding numerous other assaults on the restoration of America by the Bush family and the romneys and the McClain’s, Etc. Even if it makes you really angry, it’s no less true.


57 posted on 07/31/2018 8:36:37 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Midnitethecat
"It dates back to the last one."

I disagree. I don't think "global socialism" had jumped the pond yet...it was still gestating in Europe.

58 posted on 07/31/2018 8:43:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: lowbuck
The Campus Higher education surely helped split the country in two.

The old liberal arts education is dead, wrecked by multicultural claptrap and diversity and the tie of gender and race studies. If that rot extends into engineering and the basic sciences, the university is dead as a whole.

What university just covered over Kipling’s If with a poem by... Maya Angelou?

59 posted on 07/31/2018 8:44:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Starboard

What I mean by that is we must retain control of the house and senate otherwise swamp draining will come to a screeching halt. Don’t worry about primaries or third party challengers or anything else. We need to retain control at all costs or the party is over.


60 posted on 07/31/2018 8:47:56 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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