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U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question
Santa Fe New Mexican ^ | Aug 29, 2018 | Kevin Sieff

Posted on 08/30/2018 11:40:52 PM PDT by Tammy8

U.S. is denying passports to Americans along the border, throwing their citizenship into question

PHARR, Tex. — On paper, he’s a devoted U.S. citizen.

His official American birth certificate shows he was delivered by a midwife in Brownsville, at the southern tip of Texas. He spent his life wearing American uniforms: three years as a private in the Army, then as a cadet in the Border Patrol and now as a state prison guard.

But when Juan, 40, applied to renew his U.S. passport this year, the government’s response floored him. In a letter, the State Department said it didn’t believe he was an American citizen.

As he would later learn, Juan is one of a growing number of people whose official birth records show they were born in the United States but who are now being denied passports — their citizenship suddenly thrown into question. The Trump administration is accusing hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Hispanics along the border of using fraudulent birth certificates since they were babies, and it is undertaking a widespread crackdown.

In a statement, the State Department said that it “has not changed policy or practice regarding the adjudication of passport applications,” adding that “the U.S.-Mexico border region happens to be an area of the country where there has been a significant incidence of citizenship fraud.”

But cases identified by the Washington Post and interviews with immigration attorneys suggest a dramatic shift in both passport issuance and immigration enforcement.

(Excerpt) Read more at santafenewmexican.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; immigration
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Interesting, it has been well known that some babies were given US birth certificates based on information that came from sources other than official, midwives and others that vouched for birth certificates. This will be a hot button, not sure how it can be proven they were or were not actually born here.
1 posted on 08/30/2018 11:40:52 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

They got it backwards. (as usual for a leftist ‘newspaper’.)

Their citizenship is in question, so they are being denied passports.


2 posted on 08/30/2018 11:43:42 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

Or Obamafags in the State Dept looking to make Trump look bad


3 posted on 08/30/2018 11:45:16 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Tammy8

“official birth records show they were born in the United States but who are now being denied passports “

This is strange.


4 posted on 08/31/2018 12:03:02 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Tammy8

OBVIOUSLY, their births weren’t properly recorded, and the reason was that there was no baby for the midwives to present to the county authorities. They’re busted.


5 posted on 08/31/2018 12:03:34 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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To: Tammy8
HOAX!
6 posted on 08/31/2018 12:08:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Tammy8

They always manage to find a veteran for these stories.


7 posted on 08/31/2018 12:08:28 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: LegendHasIt

The left is already putting that spin out there on social media, that the government is refusing to renew passports of citizens living on the border.


8 posted on 08/31/2018 12:08:34 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: BobL

Over the years many birth certificates were issued just on the word of midwife, neighbor, family member, ETC. that a child was born here. Has been a scam for years. I am not sure how it will be proven either way after several years have passed for most of them.


9 posted on 08/31/2018 12:11:11 AM PDT by Tammy8
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I don’t consider the testimony of a midwife alone as an official source. I’m sure there are procedures and reports to make for it to become official. I get the feeling they weren’t followed and the parents of the child were illegal or undocumented immigrants which further raise suspicions.


10 posted on 08/31/2018 12:11:21 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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This country has been scammed by foreigners faking citizenship so much and for so long that it is unreal. And of course the biggest scam artist opportunity for decades and the state with the least interest in keeping their records legit is not Texas it is Hawaii.


11 posted on 08/31/2018 12:14:57 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Innovative

At least some of them also have their births recorded in other countries. That will be a little hard to explain.


12 posted on 08/31/2018 12:15:41 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do you say it is a hoax?


13 posted on 08/31/2018 12:17:30 AM PDT by Tammy8
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The problem is for years vital records was taking the word of midwives. Some midwives confessed they lied about many of the babies they signed off on. The issue is the same midwives were actually delivering many babies here. At this point it will be hard to determine on some of these questionable birth certificates.

Some of the people flagged by the passport office actually have birth certificates from other countries that show they were born there, along with US birth certificates that show they were born here. Those people will have some explaining to do.

I know Mexico has been getting a lot of their records online in the past several years so that may be what is flagging some of these people for investigation.


14 posted on 08/31/2018 12:22:45 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Jeff Chandler

I have noticed that! Nothing short of amazing.


15 posted on 08/31/2018 12:25:22 AM PDT by Tammy8
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This will be a hot button, not sure how it can be proven they were or were not actually born here.

As far as I understood there is a precedence for this. I believe in the past when home births were more common, two witnesses who knew the family could vouch in a sworn document that the birth was valid. They even had an I Love Lucy episode about this.

I Love Lucy

The Passports |S5 E11| 26:09

Because Lucy can't produce her birth certificate, which she needs to get a passport for the upcoming trip Europe, she must somehow prove she was born.

I Love Lucy - "The Passports" clip
16 posted on 08/31/2018 12:33:40 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Jeff Chandler

They always manage to find a veteran for these stories.

With the MSM, they push a McCain level of fawning praise when pushing their agenda.


17 posted on 08/31/2018 12:34:42 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Jeff Chandler

#7. It is easy to check someone’s claim of serving in the military (Military ID #, Discharge papers, awards, old paychecks (we have a couple from my son’s service in Iraq), Military ID Photo/card, and for Christians, church records of births and baptisms, etc.

However, this is not a well-thought out policy if what the article says is true. People who live in the US are not going to run away from everything they have if they are legal citizens, so a personal recognizance release would be in order.

As for the woman’s “dying father”, a humanitarian temporary passport would work, esp. if the Mexican Consulate recognizes it for emergencies.

This is no time to “monkey up” our immigration policies. Time to think “smart” and “stay smart” for the good of everyone.


18 posted on 08/31/2018 12:35:10 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Yep, sounds like a mess. There were a few clues in the article though - things like doctor’s records would help. If the mom was going to the doctor in the US when pregnant, then it would be reasonable to assume that the kid would be born in the United States, and if not, the kid should still be a citizen, but the mom should be committed.


19 posted on 08/31/2018 12:39:37 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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Well Ol’ Juan at least has a Birth Certificate.

WAY AHEAD of the zer0 and the Certificate of Live Birth and 20+ DIFFERENT Social Security Numbers...

Juan also has a real history.


20 posted on 08/31/2018 12:44:58 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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