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Elizabeth Warren connected DNA and Native American heritage. Here's why that's destructive.
NBC News ^ | October 17, 2018 | by Kelly Hayes and Jacqueline Keeler

Posted on 10/17/2018 12:58:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Although her intention was to push back against Trump, Warren has provided an unwitting assist to those attempting to take away tribal sovereignty.

Warren stated that she is not a member of any tribe, but her efforts to connect DNA and Native American heritage could nevertheless have unintended consequences. It is a common joke amongst Native people that the phrase “I’m 1/16th Cherokee” (or in Warren’s case, 1/64th to 1/1024th Cherokee - the DNA test can only offer up a possible range) is a “white proverb.” While the framing of Native identity that has emerged in discussions of Warren’s background is incredibly common, it is also highly destructive to Native people.

Most Americans are unacquainted with the true legal nature of Native identity; Warren's DNA test will doubtless muddy the waters considerably, dealing Native nations a real political blow. Although her primary intention was to push back against Trump’s goading and name calling, Warren has provided an unwitting assist to the conservative Goldwater Institute and other Republican initiatives that are attempting to take away tribal sovereignty.

As Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. stated Monday night, tribes determine citizenship in several different ways. As a political representative of another government, “It’s wholly unhelpful for any national leader to cling to DNA to determine or to establish that they are Native American.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cherokee; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; indian; indians; jacquelinekeeler; kellyhayes; massachusetts; pocahonky; senate; slingingbull; warren
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The Woman of Color.

1 posted on 10/17/2018 12:58:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

it was an amazing day yesterday. american liberals failed biology, math, history, and sociology all in the same second.


2 posted on 10/17/2018 1:00:29 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow, the MSM is in an absolute race to throw her under the bus today.


3 posted on 10/17/2018 1:04:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Aren’t Native Americans actually Asian immigrants?


4 posted on 10/17/2018 1:04:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Washington Times has the story, Elizabeth Warren’s story of racist grandparents disputed by Cherokee genealogist:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren sought Sunday to bolster her shaky claims of Cherokee ancestry with the story of how her racist grandparents drove her parents to elope.

But Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes says that account has its own credibility issues.

Ms. Barnes, who said her research into Ms. Warren’s family found “no evidence” of Native American ancestry, has challenged key elements of the senator’s tale of how her parents, Pauline Reed and Donald Herring, defied his parents by running off to marry.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” said Ms. Barnes in a 2016 post on her Thoughts from Polly’s Granddaughter blog. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.” ….

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”

Given that Ms. Warren’s father had just turned 21, the age after which he could legally marry in Oklahoma without his parents’ permission, “Maybe his parents feared if he got married, he would drop out of college. And according to the evidence, that is exactly what happened,” she said.

Cornell Law School professor William A. Jacobson vouched for the credibility of Ms. Barnes‘ fact-finding.

“I have never seen anything that called into question the integrity of Twila Barnes‘ research,” said Mr. Jacobson, who runs the Legal Insurrection blog. “To the contrary, she has meticulously researched Warren’s family lineage demonstrating no Native American ancestry, as well as facts rebutting Warren’s family lore stories.”


5 posted on 10/17/2018 1:04:49 PM PDT by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The woman of color.”

In optics (also important in politics), white is the color that contains all others.


6 posted on 10/17/2018 1:05:55 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In other news, Stormy Daniels DNA results came back as 1/64 equine


7 posted on 10/17/2018 1:08:42 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought it was central and south American “natives” that her “friend” had to use to make ANY connection. She needs to STFU! Right after she fixes us some bison burgers. Maybe not!


8 posted on 10/17/2018 1:09:21 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Can’t anyone get it through there heads and articles that NO Indian DNA was even used! It was hispanic DNA from SA!!!


9 posted on 10/17/2018 1:11:44 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
p14
10 posted on 10/17/2018 1:12:26 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Figment

LOL...well, she is STILL less than John Effing Kerry!


11 posted on 10/17/2018 1:15:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Baynative

Elizabeth Warren did a double here...

She threw her grandparents under the bus just like Obama did about his “racist” grandma.

And she lied about a family story just like Hillary lied regarding being named after Sir Edmund Hillary.


12 posted on 10/17/2018 1:16:19 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Woman of color has heap big fork tongue.

The Jeep division of Fiat is bringing out a new all white Jeep Cherokee. They call it the Pocahontas.

5.56mm


13 posted on 10/17/2018 1:16:55 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Moonman62

Yes, they stole the land from the buffalo, deer and antelope. Home on the Range was a protest song about the imperialism and oppression of these exploitive invaders. The cowboys were actually SJW’s who were sticking up for Gaia’s indigenous creatures. Whatever havoc they wreaked on Native American tribes was justified, as they were fighting hate and were anti-fascist.


14 posted on 10/17/2018 1:17:12 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

15 posted on 10/17/2018 1:17:45 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 32:12)
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To: rktman

“I thought it was central and south American “natives” that her “friend” had to use to make ANY connection. She needs to STFU! Right after she fixes us some bison burgers. Maybe not!”

Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Is Not Her Identity/Atlantic Article: By: Krystal Tsosie

As a geneticist and a member of the Navajo Nation, I have some thoughts on the senator’s announcement.

Warren did not use a direct-to-consumer test kit, such as 23andMe or AncestryDNA. Instead, she consulted the expertise of a leading population geneticist, Carlos Bustamante.

Statistical genetics rely on well-established facts about DNA inheritance. A quick recap in case you’ve forgotten your high-school biology: People inherit half of their genetic material from each parent and, with every generation, roughly half of that genetic information is lost. Even meiotic-recombination events—the crossing over of chromosomes when two gametes meet, which can explain diversity of traits within the same family—originally thought to be random, can be mapped to statistically predictable regions of the genome.

If you compare your genetic information with that of members from a reference population, you can estimate how long ago an ancestor belonged to that population based on statistical patterns of inheritance.

But your estimate is only as good as your reference.

Bustamante could not use U.S. tribal groups as a reference, because many have declined to participate in genomics studies and have refused to deposit DNA in publicly available databases. (More on that later.)

In the case of Warren’s individual DNA test, Bustamante resorted to what he considered the next best reference: 37 individuals from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia. According to Western scientists—who prefer migration theories that are culturally incongruent with indigenous origin stories—indigenous individuals from these countries represent the closest “sampled” biological relatives to Native Americans (that is, to those who originally inhabited what is now the United States).

This approach leaves a lot to be desired.

6:00 AM ET: 10/17/2018
Krystal Tsosie,
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/what-make-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test/573205/


16 posted on 10/17/2018 1:18:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Dems @ the Kavanaugh lynching, told Americans that non gay men of any color have Zero future w/them!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is what passes for a Harvard Law professor?


17 posted on 10/17/2018 1:18:59 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Moonman62

Yep and Ancestry.com com said I was 2% Asian which makes me more Native American than Fauxahuntas.


18 posted on 10/17/2018 1:19:25 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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19 posted on 10/17/2018 1:24:44 PM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Forget Warren.
I believe what this article is alluding to is if DNA might become a factor in determining heritage to receive benefits. Because people,tribes,reservations,casinos,etc might have to start proving they are eligible. Think of checks, benefits, employment, education perks, tax exemptions and especially sovereignty. And I do know a few examples myself.


20 posted on 10/17/2018 1:25:37 PM PDT by TianaHighrider
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