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What I Learned About Young People While Trying to Buy a Car
Townhall.com ^ | October 23, 2018 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 10/23/2018 4:25:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

This past week, I went to five car dealers in an upper-middle-class suburb of Los Angeles to see what SUV I'd like to lease. I wanted to patronize local car dealers because I want them to stay in business.

In each case, I experienced the following: I was greeted pleasantly upon entering the dealership. A young salesperson asked if he or she could help me. I told the salesperson the model I was interested in. He or she made a copy of my driver's license and returned with a key to the car, and off we went.

In every instance, the salesperson was sweet, unenthusiastic and largely ignorant of the car in which I was interested.

All of them answered most of my questions -- such as "Is this SUV available in all-wheel-drive?" -- with some version of "l'll look it up."

I began car shopping many decades ago but have rarely gone to dealerships in the last 25 years (I generally drove the cars of advertisers on my radio show). My recollection of my experience in earlier days is that car salespeople (especially those of foreign cars) were car enthusiasts. They were passionate about cars in general and very knowledgeable about the particular cars they were selling.

But in every instance this past week, I felt I knew more about the car, from doing some research on the internet, than the salesperson did.

It seemed to both my wife and me that these car dealerships hired any decent young person who applied for a job, and that these young people regarded selling cars as no different from selling shoes: It's a job. It requires you to show up on time, be polite, accompany potential buyers on a test drive, look up answers to questions on your smartphone and go home at the end of the day. Their interest in cars was not necessarily greater than drug store employees' interest in hair brushes. Selling cars is just a way -- one of many others to come -- to pay the bills.

My wife saw in the answer "I'll look it up" one possible key to the problem: If the young people we interacted with this past week are representative of their generation, many do not feel the need to know much, because all the information they need in life can be found via Google.

I focused on another issue: While these young salespeople were unfailingly pleasant, none of them evinced passion.

I remember young (and old) car salesmen who loved cars. Sure, they would exaggerate a car's qualities, but they knew all about it -- inside and out. But this past week, not one of the salespeople said anything about the car during the test drive. Unless I asked questions, their only words were "Make a right at the next corner."

It makes me wonder what young people are passionate about in our time: favorite TV shows and actors? Music? Video games? Sports? Global warming?

If a 65-year-old salesman seems to be doing little more than going through the motions, we understand that perhaps we have met a modern-day Willy Loman. But a passionless 25-year-old? That's just sad.

Do the car dealerships know this? Do they care? At one time, the general critique of car dealers was they were too pushy. If my experience is at all typical, I can assure readers that pushiness is no longer a problem. The only thing any of the dealers pushed was free bottled water.

I am aware that every generation laments "In my time ..." But that doesn't necessarily invalidate what follows.

In my time, young guys -- I can speak with greater knowledge about men -- had hobbies/passions. And ambition.

If I were 25 years old and had a job selling cars, even if I had other aspirations for my life, I would still aim to be the best car salesman in America. That's what we refer to as ambition.

I would learn everything I could about the cars I sold. I would learn how to advocate for the cars without being pushy. During the test drives, I would say a lot more than where the customer should next turn. In addition to talking about the car, I would ask customers about themselves.

I detected little ambition in the sex previously known for professional ambition -- men. But no one should be surprised. Many young men have been coddled by parents and by society. If you receive a trophy just for playing, why try to win? If self-esteem is given to you without having to earn it, why try to earn it? If the government will take care of you, why work hard? Anyway, ambition in men is probably now considered a form of "toxic masculinity."

Perhaps most importantly, young men have been given the message that women have no need for the support of a man. Women, they have been told all their lives, are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves and any children they might have.

So, then, if the government will take care of you and your income is not necessary to support a family, why be ambitious? Why push yourself to succeed?

Talk to the young men in your life and ask them if they are ambitious. Don't be surprised if they answer "I'll look it up."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: automotive; carshopping; carupgrade; masculinity; men
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To: Kaslin

It’s the same in Home Depot. I won’t ask anyone under 25 where to find something because these kids went through schools that cancelled wood and metal shop to make way for gender studies and social justics drivel. Consequently, they tend not to know a thing about materials or fabricating anything. Ask them for where the Pex crimper or ramset cartridges are and they’ll stammer and whip out their iphone.
I try to find anyone old-male or female, they always know their stuff.


61 posted on 10/23/2018 5:41:45 AM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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To: fluorescence
I didn't express a single point that disagrees with what you say.

So why do you think that young people lack passion?

62 posted on 10/23/2018 5:41:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: TalBlack

Enthusiasm sells.


63 posted on 10/23/2018 5:43:13 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

It’s an old man rant about how terrible and stupid young people are because *reasons*.

You will get the same thing said about the author decades ago. Rinse and repeat, blah blah blah.

And I’m saying this as someone that is middle-aged.


64 posted on 10/23/2018 5:43:21 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

“A young salesperson asked if he or she could help me.”

If this is truly what they said, they were poorly trained.

It should be “HOW” may I help you?”

The obvious response to “CAN” I help you, is NO. You don’t want your conversation to start on a negative basis.


65 posted on 10/23/2018 5:44:12 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t forget, too, that car dealerships have had generations to fine tune how to shaft the sales people. When the negotiations get hot, there will be a lead person there to step in and take over.


66 posted on 10/23/2018 5:45:03 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: jeffc

“Yet, walk into a Gamestop and any salesperson will be able to discuss any game on any platform to the point of exhaustion....”

Well....so?

If you walked in there, and the people knew nothing about the product they sold, you would have people complaining about how salespeople are bad these days because they dont know their own product.


67 posted on 10/23/2018 5:45:09 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin
Many years ago, I was looking for a job. My older brother was a body shop manager at a local dealership for many years. I asked him if they had any openings for sales people on the main floor.

He said, "Don't bother." When I asked why, he said I wasn't the right type of person to work that kind of job and that I would hate it. Again, I asked why. He said, "Look, to be one of those guys, you have to have a certain sleaze factor. You have to be willing to do certain things to make a sale. You have too much integrity for that kind of job. Forget it."

68 posted on 10/23/2018 5:47:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Get in the Spirit! The Spirit of '76!)
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To: Kaslin

We bought a new Chevy Malibu this summer, we are seniors and wanted the Bells & Whistles to compensate for the changes in our bodies that age brings. Hearing, vision, body stiffness and slower response time, and more comfort. We didn’t chose blindly, we knew what the car was capable of as hubby is a Car Nut and we had googled the Specs of a variety of sedans. But we also knew what we didn’t want or need. Since they’ve gone to ‘packages’ it makes it harder to get the features you want without the Crap you don’t, like a Moon/Sun Roof. We both wear hearing aids, any air leakage from windows drives you nuts. Beyond that unwanted $1,500 moon/sun roof we had a hard time finding a Dealer willing to look for a car with out it. Finally found one. So we got what we wanted sans the sun/moon roof.

Hubby has in his 78 yrs owned a variety of cars of makes, models and cost. Worst was the Carmen Gaia, for me the worse was the Corvette most uncomfortable car we owned; best is this new one as far as safety and comfort goes.

Age means you want comfort and safety to compensate for hearing loss, Side Vision loss due to cataract implants, stiff bodies, slower response time, and those medicines that make you tend to get sleepy and you lane drift. Back Up Camera that does both front and back, and lane assist parking. We got all that this time as this is the last car we hopefully buy. We don’t need SIRIUS radio. We put OUR music on a USB Stick. We can go 8 hrs with out a repeat song and NO commercials.

No CD player, well all our music is on a USB stick anyway. OUR MUSIC. not some stations canned crap with commercials.

He is more into the ‘gadget’ end and as a Electronic’s Prof and 20 yr teacher of it in the Navy picks it up easy, and sets the car up for both of us. I need the safety of the gadgets and I’m not a Nerd. I don’t even turn on the radio, hearing aids have limitations I’d rather hear the on coming Emergency vehicles than music.

Good summation, where the youth know the “Gadgets”, they don’t know a lot about the ‘Nuts & Bolts’ of the car. The young sales man set most of those ‘Gadgets’ up in no time flat. While his spiel went over my head, hubby knew what he was talking about as that is as I said a 40 yr career field.

The older manager knew the ‘Nuts & Bolts’. And was able to locate the car we wanted minus the Moon/Sun roof. Hey, it even has Tubro Boost and both can hear the Turn Signals.

It is actually a tad longer than the 5 yr old Equinox SUV that is the older car we kept. Now the Equinox has window air leaks that drive my hearing aids NUTS. Since that is the hearing Freq he doesn’t hear due to jet engines hearing loss, it doesn’t bother him, he can’t hear the turn signal, I over hear it as my hearing loss is Low Freq. Put a volume control on it please.

Then the haggling began, 10% off as Ret. Military, 10% if we financed through them, which was with a Credit Union, which had CD’s slightly over 2% as a bonus for a yr. And it was on sale as the last day of the sale, and a more off with haggling off the final cost above the sales price. Which meant hubby had to go home and dig up his last DD-214. All in all a good bargain. We paid it off in 4 months so the dealer got his ‘cut’ of the Discount for financing through Chevy. A $35K+ car became a $25K+ car SANS Moon/Sun roof. Manager sent a driver 60 miles to fetch it from another dealer. He went beyond what most managers do today to satisfy a customer who might or might not be a repeat customer. Who knows if we both live long enough and better features come out we just might get another car.

The 8 hr trip to Pigeon Forge to my sister’s was less stressful and we had plenty of room.

Plus hubby and Manager to got to talk CAR Talk while we waited. And we were sent a box of 2 coffee cups and a tin on chocolate chip cookies. Old fashion service.


69 posted on 10/23/2018 5:49:46 AM PDT by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT1)
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To: Kaslin

We just bought a car. Same experience. The sales guy was great at everything but knowledge. He knew little of the car. He got an A+ for trying hard to do what we needed, but it was odd that he knew so little about the cars even though he had worked there for several years.


70 posted on 10/23/2018 5:49:55 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: Antioch; All

On the talk of Home Depot:
My mom taught me everything I know building and repair wise. She and her father built their house and ran the farm in the 60s and 70s.
I try to be nice, but people repeatedly ask me if I need help with something and I tell them, “I know more than you.”
It’s rude but I’ve been conditioned to react this way. I pray for strength to be nice but to no avail.
Menards is 100 times worse. Ill never go back. I was in a circle of 4 grown men asking them questions about backer boards for a shower and none of them knew shit. So I told all 4 of them that they didn’t know shit.

I need more prayer apparently but if you’re working at a store you need to know what you’re dealing with.


71 posted on 10/23/2018 5:50:45 AM PDT by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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To: Kaslin

For anyone else who never heard of the word

evince
past tense: evinced; past participle: evinced

reveal the presence of (a quality or feeling).
be evidence of; indicate, reveal, show, make plain, manifest, indicate, display, exhibit, demonstrate, evidence, attest to; convey, communicate, proclaim, bespeak; informal ooze


72 posted on 10/23/2018 5:51:06 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin

They can’t spell either.


73 posted on 10/23/2018 5:52:02 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: fredhead

How can someone have passion...for a car that looks like every other car on the road, is a technology laden piece of “something” that can’t even be worked on?

A good salesman, one who actually wants to make a commission, will know the cars he’s selling inside out and can approach the potential buyer with answers that fit the buyers interests.

There is nothing more useless than an unengaged salesman. It says they don’t want to be there and really don’t care if you’re there. Now Im not talking a pushy salesman, but I am talking a salesman who sizes up a potential buyer and speaks to their interests. If a buyer is looking for safety in a car or reliability, a good salesman should be able to talk about those aspects of the car. Whatever aspect the buyer is interested in, the salesman, a good salesman, should have knowledge to help the buyer. Otherwise, why are they there at all.

And all that technology in modern cars? It has made today’s cars far safer and more comfortable and reliable to drive. If your wife or daughter was out driving the family car, you’d want that car to be reliable. You’d want the car to have traction control, brake-assist, and GPS to prevent possible accidents and ensure they get safely back home.


74 posted on 10/23/2018 5:52:15 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Kaslin

The idiot is fleecing a car and he badmouths the sales guy. SMH


75 posted on 10/23/2018 5:54:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the dealerships are finally figuring out that if they don’t stop the aggressive ‘in your face’ sales tactics, they will be out of business within a couple of years. The description of polite but disinterested sales people appeals to me. I haven’t been to a dealership in years because of the pushy sales people that used to swarm you if you even drove through looking.


76 posted on 10/23/2018 5:54:18 AM PDT by Sharin
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To: Kaslin

I really don’t need the car salesman to do anything but sell me the car I want. Thebresearch isnat our fingertips. I really enjoyed the Car Sense experience and plan to go back again. Good cars, low pressure and no hassle. They’ll ship any car you find on their site for you too.


77 posted on 10/23/2018 5:55:25 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I only respect a sales guy who can lie to me with confidence.


78 posted on 10/23/2018 5:56:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: George Rand

I try to be nice, but people repeatedly ask me if I need help with something and I tell them, “I know more than you.”
It’s rude but I’ve been conditioned to react this way. I pray for strength to be nice but to no avail.

You might just try, “I’m good, thanks”. It’s fewer words and doesn’t pointlessly belittle the other person.


79 posted on 10/23/2018 5:57:04 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Kaslin

“I would learn everything I could about the cars I sold.”

This is called “Product knowledge”. Usually referencing new cars. Totally unnecessary. Everything you need to know or to answer questions, is on the window sticker.

Also comparing your product to other brands is counter productive.


80 posted on 10/23/2018 5:57:36 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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