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OPENING UP THE PACKAGE PLOT: But mysteries linger about Florida suspect Cesar Sayoc
FrontPage Mag ^ | October 27, 2018 | Lloyd Billingsley

Posted on 10/27/2018 6:20:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

This week suspicious, potentially explosive packages were sent to former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, former vice president Joe Biden, former CIA boss John Brennan (via CNN), former DNC boss Debbie Wasserman Schultz, former Attorney General Eric Holder, Rep. Maxine Waters, billionaire George Soros, and actor Robert De Niro. Warnings that more packages had been sent turned out to be true.

On Friday, authorities intercepted suspicious packages sent to senators Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, former national intelligence director James Clapper, and billionaire Tom Steyer. Like the first group, all are prominent Democrats and critics of President Trump.

FBI director Christopher Wray described the packages as improvised explosive devices and not “hoax devices,” though according to a U.S. News report it was unclear whether they could be detonated. To date, none of the devices exploded and no one has been harmed, but Wray believes “we’ve caught the right guy.” That turned out to be Cesar Sayoc, 56, and the establishment media cranked out stories on what was known about him.

CNN reported that his van featured images of President Trump as well as a sticker reading “CNN Sucks.” A Facebook video “showed the bomb suspect in a MAGA hat at Trump rally in 2016” and Sayoc was a “registered Republican.” Sayoc also had a criminal record, with arrests for bomb threats, grand theft, battery, fraud, drug possession and probation violations. His lawyer Ronald S. Lowy told CNN Sayoc “didn’t fit it” and he questioned Sayoc’s ability to execute a scheme of explosive devices.

The New York Times learned that Cesar Altieri Sayoc’s father was from the Philippines and his mother from Brooklyn. He “frequently posted in right-wing circles and shared conservative news stories and condemnations of liberal politicians.” Relatives told the Times Sayoc was a body builder who had worked as a male stripper. He had money, lost it, and “wasn’t the most stable guy in the world.” A hairdresser described him as “very antisocial” and “a loner” who lived in his van. Sayoc was not quoted in the article.

The Washington Post described Sayoc as “a man who coupled a deep disdain for Democrats with extreme reverence for the president and his policies.” A woman who employed him as a pizza truck driver told the Post, “He was crazed, that’s the best word for him. There was something really off with him.”

Daniel Aaronson, an attorney who has represented the suspect in the past, told the Post that none of his clients was “as polite and as courteous and as respectful to me” as Sayoc. Aaronson, a Democrat, said “I am very proud of some of the people that were targeted,” and “if he had said anything along those lines, I certainly would have noted it, because we would have gotten into a political discussion.”

CBS News reported that Sayoc’s fingerprint was uncovered from the package sent to Rep. Maxine Waters, and DNA evidence from one of the device also played a role. CBS cited President Trump’s statement that the suspect would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, that “terrorizing acts” were “despicable and have no place in our country," and “we must never allow political violence to take root in America.”

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that the suspect faced five federal charges and could land in prison for 48 years. FBI boss Wray would not say if anyone else had been involved, and on the day of Sayoc’s arrest, mysteries remained.

Why would any Trump supporter commit an act of domestic terrorism that would harm the president, especially at a time when his early achievements were undeniable and his momentum strong? Why would any Trump supporter send explosive devices that played directly into the Democrats’ narrative? At every opportunity, Democrats charge that Trump is responsible for the hostile climate in the nation, which produces acts such as those of which Sayoc is accused.

CBS cited a statement from Tom Steyer, who said the problem was more than “one isolated terrorist in Florida.” Whether “voter suppression, voter intimidation, attacks on our free press, gerrymandering, or attempted violence -- the trust and norms that are the actual basis for our civil society and political system are being eroded.”

Rep. Maxine Waters called on President Trump to “take responsibility for the kind of violence that we are seeing for the first time in different ways.” In Waters’ view, “the president of the United States has been dog-whistling to his constituency” and Trump “in his own way really does promote a lot of violence.”

As Clinton aide Phillippe Reines has it, this is all on the president, who with every fiber of his “rotten being” has “incited and condoned hate.” Whatever the reality, that narrative is likely to escalate.

Meanwhile, the default description of Sayoc is a crazed, right-wing nut job. At this writing, he hasn’t said a word to the press, and it is entirely possible there could be more to the man, and the package plot.

On Monday, Cesar Sayoc will appear in federal court in Miami to face charges. As the president says, we’ll see what happens.


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To: gaijin
The day before the election? A massive confrontation on a border crossing bridge between The Caravan and a bunch of sunglasses-wearing, baton-weilding ICE and Border Patrol.

CNN already has the story written.

"Honduran child killed by US troops at border"


21 posted on 10/27/2018 7:06:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: subterfuge

Did Mark Judge write a how to book about mail bombs. This guy makes the perfect target just sit and wait like Kavanaugh.


22 posted on 10/27/2018 7:06:14 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Lockbox

Since there is a claim that one of these ‘bombs’ was also sent to Debbie Wasserman Schultz did it also have the return address as Debbie Wasserman Schultz like the others ?


23 posted on 10/27/2018 7:08:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ryderann

LE and prison personnel have seen this many times.


For two and a half years I taught at a “youth center” (juvenile prison). Life at the center was so much better (good food, warm housing, color TV (this was the 70s)) than their life on the outside that pre-release kids would deliberately break rules so that their release would be delayed.


24 posted on 10/27/2018 7:10:35 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: FreeAtlanta; ryderann
But thats not how those people do that either especially if one lives someplace like Florida.

They find a cop then do something like vandalize a traffic sign in front of him and resist arrest. Then they get housed for the winter and have medical issues addressed while living in Hotel Taxslave until spring.

The point is not to get put away "forever" but to only do short stints when "needed".

Maybe he did want a longer stretch (if he did it which Im doubting) then as a person with a felony record you just peg a cop witha rock and wait to get arrested. You go to a school with a stick and run around shooting the kids to get into the mental health hospital and possibly play that into a protective placement in some nice neighborhood.

Ive actually known people who play these games and what you are suggesting isnt the way that vacation/retirement on the taxslave dime works.

25 posted on 10/27/2018 7:13:44 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: UCANSEE2

From what I understand the package was returned to DWS and not sent to her.


26 posted on 10/27/2018 7:14:32 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: ryderann

Wow, that is the very same thought that crossed my mind yesterday after reading about Sayoc’s lifestyle.
For most people, the thought of living in a jail cell would be terrifying, but for some, it might less scary than living in the prison of their own warped minds.


27 posted on 10/27/2018 7:17:41 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

My guess is he commits suicide.


28 posted on 10/27/2018 7:25:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: bert

It’s a good factual recap, hardly balderdash.


29 posted on 10/27/2018 7:25:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: JonPreston

None of this changes the fact that CNN Sucks. Check their ratings.

Nothing changes the fact that the media reports fake news and fake polls in order to influence the electorate. The polls magically change the day before the election so they can say, “We got it right.”

Nothing changes the fact that politics is a contact sport according to Democrat party leaders.

Nothing changes the fact that Antifa is the militant wing of the Democrat party, encouraged by Democrat party leaders and the press.

Nothing changes the fact that the Resistance movement, led by Obama by and paid for by Steyer and Soros, is pure and simple sedition.

Nothing changes the fact that political correctness has destroyed this country.

Nothing changes the fact that there was no Russian collusion with President Trump. In fact, if there was any collusion, it was between NeverTrumper John McCain and his gal pal Hillary Clinton.

Nothing changes the fact that Hillary Clinton vowed, “I believe if we are fortunate enough to take back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”

VOTE!


30 posted on 10/27/2018 7:31:03 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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Partisan Media Shills LIE, because they are A) regurgitating DNC talking points, and B) they are LIARS.

31 posted on 10/27/2018 7:36:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If Trump was using a dog whistle, Maxine was using a
electric dog collar on a pack of pit bulls, probably
learned to do this from Michael Vick.


32 posted on 10/27/2018 7:44:10 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bert

Yeah how do you think Nan and Chuck feel right now? Geez what does a progressive have to do to get some respect?


33 posted on 10/27/2018 8:24:26 AM PDT by redangus (actually hit her?)
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To: JonPreston
and it is entirely possible there could be more to the man, and the package plot.

All it would take for someone like this is for a Liberal with whom he is arguing to say, "Why don't your do something about that if you feel so strongly?"

34 posted on 10/27/2018 8:25:21 AM PDT by arthurus (O0o|-i=!)
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To: gaijin

On the nose.


35 posted on 10/27/2018 8:26:31 AM PDT by arthurus (O0o|-i=!)
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To: gaijin

Alex Jones has been saying such things for weeks. At first he thought the guy was the False Flag that he had been predicting because he had predicted bombings.


36 posted on 10/27/2018 8:29:03 AM PDT by arthurus (O0o|-i=!)
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To: arthurus

26 Oct: NBC: Some mailed pipe bombs could have been duds, investigators say
At least some of the explosives in the wave of pipe bombs mailed to prominent figures could not have exploded, several investigators said.
By Jonathan Dienst, Tom Winter, Pete Williams and Daniella Silva
At least some of the devices found in the wave of suspected pipe bombs mailed to prominent political and media figures had no possibility of exploding — because they contained flaws in the way they were made, several investigators told NBC News on Thursday, based on early analysis.

In a few cases, the flaws were substantial, the investigators said. In others, the defects were more subtle. But there’s still no way to know at this point whether the deficiencies were intentional — to make convincing hoaxes — or simply the result of bad design or construction, the sources said.
The investigation’s analysis is far from complete, as some devices have yet to be analyzed in any kind of detail...
Each bomb also contained powder from a low explosive or a pyrotechnic, as in fireworks, they said...

MSNBC senior law enforcement analyst Bill Bratton, who led the police departments in Boston, New York and Los Angeles, told MSNBC on Thursday that the FBI had a number of devices that it would be “in a position to disassemble to determine their functionality.”
“Were they ever intended to actually function, and if so, how, in terms of how were they supposed to be detonated?” he asked.
“If not, well, then, that changes the focus from trying to cause bodily harm to effectively creating fear,” he said...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/some-mailed-pipe-bombs-could-have-been-duds-investigators-say-n924516

am sure they could all have been examined by now...
but if they were, and all were declared to be duds, the narrative would have to shift. delay delay.


37 posted on 10/27/2018 4:02:59 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

I think PVC pipe was used in at least some of these. With black powder if they detonated it would produce at best/worst a flare.


38 posted on 10/27/2018 4:05:28 PM PDT by arthurus (___vjh)
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To: Lockbox

Thank you for the clarification.


39 posted on 10/29/2018 6:32:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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