Posted on 11/20/2018 3:46:01 PM PST by Texas Fossil
Washington Post is leading a Media Crusade against Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman over the Khashoggi killing
The CIA has no evidence against him despite all the spin We need to make decisions based on US strategic interests not media attacks
Khashoggi Case- Analysis of an Information Operation
The killing of Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey caught the attention of the entire world for an extended period of time, much longer than the news of one murder would normally do. Security Studies Group decided to examine why.
We took a rigorous look at the actual origins and spread of the unique aspects of this story to see where it came from and who was moving it around. The results were not exactly what we expected. Here we present our results.
SSG Firehoses in the Khashoggi Case
Executive summary
The Turkish government successfully used an information operation to elevate the case of Jamal Khashoggis disappearance into a major international incident with strategic implications. The disappearance of Khashoggi is contemporaneous with the disappearance, and possible murder, of the head of INTERPOL, Meng Hongwei. In one of these cases a highly visible individual with international position vanished without a trace and little fanfare; in the other a stunning amount of media coverage resulted in one of the largest news stories of the year. The US Secretary of State was personally dispatched to investigate, as was later the Director of Central Intelligence. The difference in these cases is caused by the existence of the Turkish information operation (IO), and the absence of any similar operation attempting to push for Chinese accountability.
The Turkish government attained success through an adaptation of a Russian technique that the RAND Corporation calls the Firehoses of Falsehood Propaganda Model.1 In fact the Falsehood aspect of this model is dispensable;
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factions of DC?
Yep.
I don’t trust the IC.
These agencies need to be purged of all Bush/Clinton/W/Obama hires. Every last one of them.
I think it was one of those “honor” killings. Their allowed
A pox on both their houses.
But I want to see Saudia destroyed. It is the font of evil around the world.
It is an evil that has a number of heads.
I can’t see what part MBS is playing, but that will probably become apparent.
My view is that we have an obligation to Israel and her allies. Which I think are our natural allies.
The public in the US, has been conditioned by the Media, Academia and the political forces. It is asleep, oblivious to most of this discussion. But what we discuss is very real. It makes no difference that some don’t understand or accept this. It simply is.
We should try to explain this to those who can “get it”, many cannot yet. At some point it will be clear to many more.
I’m not sure he did. Khashoggi was connected with al Talal. He was outwardly supportive of the MB.
Turkey and Saudi Arabia have a long history of battle for power in the Middle East. At one point the leader of Saudi Arabia (Abdullah bin Saud) was captured (1818), brought to Istanbul and beheaded (outside the Hagia Sophia).
The Long Struggle for Supremacy in the Muslim World
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-long-struggle-for-supremacy-in-the-muslim-world-1540572987 (pay walled)
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We have an obligation to protect Israel. But that doesn’t mean we should not include safety for the Christians in Syria and Iraq who we have abandoned.
I agree, but I do not accept that we have abandoned the Christians in Iraq and Syria. VP Pence has been very vocal about that.
The issues in Iraq are different than in Syria.
In Iraq, most of the Chaldean’s have been forced to immigrate to the West where possible. I’ve been told that some of Muslims there have converted to Christianity and replace some of those who left. It is very hard to do that.
In Syria, the number of Christian converts are increasing. The significance of that has been downplayed publicly because of the danger. Syriac’s there have been active participants in the YPG/YPJ and later in the SDF. They have fought well in battle. And many of them have died in battle. I’ve had some contact with MFS forces in SDF.
If we can freeze and overcome Turkey’s ambitions, there is a lot of promise in N. Syria. Things have certainly changed since ISIS was shut down. There is still a small but significant pocket of ISIS on Eastern Border of Syria and the one Turkey transplanted to Efrin (Afrin).
There is the issue of Church structure in the ME. Most of the old ones were top down, not what I grew up with which is locally controlled. The top down structure has always negotiated with the central government and the results of that are mixed.
Many of the Iraqi christians fled to Syria, which is why the number of christians there is increasing. Coupled to that is the FACT that Assad protected and protects Christians
That's another of my bugbears, instead of supporting Assad obama went to support the jihadis
We should set up a a Christian lebanon, Christian southern Syria, Alawite coastal syria, Kurdistan and renewed Assyria.
It is more than that. Conversions are taking places. Some would have long ago, but for fear of laws against it. Efrin had more than one Christian Church. Kobani has one. Many communities further East are majority.
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