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Californians Cited and Fined for Recycling Wrong
www.breitbart.com ^ | 05 DEC 2018 | Nate Church

Posted on 12/06/2018 1:37:26 PM PST by Red Badger

California’s Bay Area is facing a recycling crisis, as China ramps up requirements for recycled materials.

Recycling the wrong items can get you a fine of $26.60 in West Contra Costa County. In Marin County, Mill Valley Refuse Service will simply refuse to take your recyclable waste until it has been properly sorted. Eventually, residents can be charged with the cost of dumping the waste in a landfill.

“We’re hoping that people will see what they did wrong and clean it out, then pick up the cart the next week,” Mill Valley Refuse co-owner Jim Iavarone said.

But the problem lies not with the waste management companies, or even the centers to which they ship their recyclable materials. In fact, it starts on the other side of the world. “Before now, China was taking everything and now they’re saying, ‘Hey we’re not taking this stuff anymore so the processing plants got stuck with it,” Iavarone said. He elaborated:

[Then] the processors turned to the haulers and said ‘hey we’re not taking this stuff anymore’ so then the haulers got stuck. Now we have to turn to the consumer or resident at the street level and say, ‘OK we can’t take this stuff anymore either,’ so you have to do more sorting at home. It starts at home.

“Many people put questionable things in the cart hoping that somebody will deal with it down the line,” Iavarone continued. “In the past, it went unnoticed because China was buying it. So we became very lax. No longer. Now we have to deal with it.”

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To: Red Badger

Well, it has not come that down here. I just look at it as an extra trash can anything remotely recyclable goes in. It all get dumped in the western Pacific anyways.


21 posted on 12/06/2018 2:38:10 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: fruser1

We’ve going about this wrong so far. I see great wisdom in your idea.


22 posted on 12/06/2018 2:38:39 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Red Badger
It is pretty well documented by now that recyclables are a myth except for aluminum. But the State has a vested interest in conditioning the populace to be obedient and not ask questions.

So, yes they want you to continue to sort your trash, even though it all goes to the same landfill. It is control of behavior, not resources, that they are after.

23 posted on 12/06/2018 3:20:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Red Badger

Keep voting Democrat, Democrats!


24 posted on 12/06/2018 3:38:12 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Their set of values is not like that of the normal, sane person.


25 posted on 12/06/2018 3:58:59 PM PST by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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To: DugwayDuke
My wife has relatives in Germany where you can be fined for failure to recycle and incorrect recycling, ie, plastic in the paper bins, etc. They have people who inspect and police such things.

When I was last in Germany, I noticed immense plastic blocks—presumably melted from Recyclables—were being used to shield neighborhoods from Autobahn noise.

Recycled tires were shredded and used for gun-range backstops. :)

26 posted on 12/06/2018 4:05:29 PM PST by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: Freedom4US

Off to the gulags for you! You are not supposed to question authority let alone have any common sense! lol


27 posted on 12/06/2018 4:19:59 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: Does so
..you can be fined for failure to recycle and incorrect recycling, ie, plastic in the paper bins, etc

Saw a neighbor raking leaves the other day. He was stuffing them into the recycling trash can. They’re going to love that. Thought about giving him trash bag, but, didn’t want to exert my white privilege.

28 posted on 12/06/2018 5:08:13 PM PST by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Freedom4US

I have been recycling for years; compostable garbage goes into the compost heap for the gardens.
Everything (I mean EVERYTHING) else goes into the burn barrel and turned into smoke.
The non-burnables (metals) get raked out every 2 or 3 months and I take that to the dump.


29 posted on 12/06/2018 5:17:58 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: fruser1

We have 2 dumpsters at the apt. One for trash and one for recycle stuff. One trash truck picks up both at the same time.

The city gave monopoly to the trash haulers. They raised prices very high and cut back service.


30 posted on 12/06/2018 5:18:19 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: 5th MEB

Same here, except I use a large magnet to get the metal out and save the ashes in barrels to put on the ice in the winter.


31 posted on 12/06/2018 6:14:43 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Red Badger
There is at least one company I know of (because the company I worked for had maintenance contracts at several of their facilities in NJ) called Covanta that burns combustible trash and generates electricity.

I see from their website that they have two locations out there in Commiefornia land. Maybe Gov. Moonbeam and his successor should push for more of them to be built as a means to solve both CA's power problems and their waste disposal issue.

But of course since these are power plants and the very thought of a power plant is anathema to the Comiefornia Libs, I don't expect that they will consider that even when summer heat brings another round of rolling blackouts..

32 posted on 12/06/2018 6:16:22 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Red Badger

When I was very little in Long Beach, Cal, there was a garbage truck that picked up garbage (you could smell it a block away) and a trash truck. In the 60s Sam Yorty of LA wanted to institute a plan where people would have to sort their trash. It cost him his office it was so unpopular. Now it seems like they want people to sort their trash, under threat of fine/penalty even though it is now all going to the same dump. The common theme seems to be, “We are going to make you do things for your own good” (even if it is pointless).


33 posted on 12/06/2018 6:55:45 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

This is no big deal——recyclables go in one barrel,non recyclables in another.

It’s like that where I live also.

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34 posted on 12/06/2018 7:02:30 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

But if it all goes into the same landfill, what’s the point?


35 posted on 12/06/2018 7:24:10 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: GreyHoundSailor

“This is why people just dump crap out in the country.”

The local dump used to recycle tube TVs but now they charge $15 to dump one. Ever since they started that TVs started showing up on the side of the road in various places.


36 posted on 12/06/2018 7:31:28 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Dawggie

” It all get dumped in the western Pacific anyways.”

A great cartoon. Starts of with an uber pious green family carefully sorting the recyclables and watching the truck pick them up. Follow the truck to the dump then the bottles to the ship then the ship to china where the plastic is remelted into new soft drink bottles that end up being drank on a river in India then the empty bottle is tossed in to the water and floats until it ends up in the middle of the trash pile in the Pacific.


37 posted on 12/06/2018 7:35:45 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Red Badger

On Long Island where I am, it used to be paper recyclables one week, glass/aluminum/plastic the next.

This year, we switched to paper/glass/aluminum/plastic all in one shot.

Next year, we’re back to paper one week, aluminum/plastic the next. Glass will only be accepted if you bring it to the town yourself.


38 posted on 12/06/2018 7:39:43 PM PST by CraigEsq
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To: hanamizu

Who says they DO go in the same landfill——I always understood that there were recycling centers?

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39 posted on 12/06/2018 7:59:23 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

I always understood that there were recycling centers?


As I understand it (and I could very well be wrong) most ‘recyclables’ were shipped to China. China is now no longer accepting our trash, so there is no place for what we thought was being recycled to go. FWIW, much of the plastic in the Pacific has come from China. Maybe they were dumping our plastic into their rivers.

My mom’s place, in California, had two large bins. One for trash and one for recyclables. As you said, it was really no big deal.

From what I’ve read, it is no longer economically feasible to recycle much of what used to be recycled, so it goes into the landfill.


40 posted on 12/06/2018 8:07:30 PM PST by hanamizu
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