Posted on 01/11/2019 10:43:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
“The H1B Visa program has been corrupted. In the IT field job descriptions are written so that they can eliminate qualified US citizens and then hire cheaper labor from abroad. I’ve seen this first hand. The applicants from abroad are not more qualified, they will just work for less.”
What you say is absolutely true, in all cases. Or, at least 99% of all cases.
An H-1B from India, with a bullsh!t degree and BS set of credentials will work for 1/3 of what an American will, and the American has a real degree and real credentials.
$20-$25 an hour on contract work with no benefits.
And companies write the job description to match the proffers they receive from staffing agencies...all the while knowing it’s a big BS story.
They don’t even have to sponsor the H-1B, it’s done by the staffing agency.
A dirty, corrupt racket.
The only way to fix it is to require, by law, that any H-1B that replaces/displaces an American worker must receive the very same salary and benefits.
Or, better yet, eliminate the program altogether.
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For better or worse, people who come here on H1B visas are coming LEGALLY. If they want to apply for citizenship I would think they should certainly get preference over the mass hordes who entered the country ILLEGALLY.
Apparently right now, they don’t.
The REAL problem program IMO is the F1 Student Visa program. Fly-by-night universities basically can rubber stamp the visas, and they come with up to 3 years work authorization if you take a STEM subject.
In sheer numbers they dwarf H1B.
The H1-B was supposed to be a temporary source of skilled resources. It was never supposed to be a path to citizenship. If the H1-B likes it here then when their contract is over they can go back home and start the permanent immigration process from there.
I get your sentiment but this is in keeping with POTUS’s proposal to change immigration to a merit-based system rather than a leftist politicized process of importing voters.
I think this folds in with the whole push with border security and immigration. POTUS will likely use the H1-B carrot as part of a strictly merit-based system while ending the insane catch and release, asylum based, import dem voter process that exists now.
I don’t like how H-1B lets certain groups in that end up taking over entire sectors of tech while self-promoting themselves and discriminating against whites and blacks. That needs to end. Let’s see if POTUS can get his proposal to address that.
LOL! And neither do you so let's leave it at that.
Your post contains nothing about Trumps planned changes.
Why are you against his changes? You want to keep the present system?
So ... what are trumps changes?
The joke is on me. Looks like Trump loses in ‘20 or barely wins, of that I am not sure. He was going to be a walk away winner now has little chance IMO. It will now be a squeaker. Regardless I never thought I would say this but now I will probably be staying home.
I suspect the change will involve them not needing employer sponsorship, thus eliminating an element of indentured servitude.
If H1Bs are not indentured to their employers, they become much less attractive.
Can we just take care of job #1 before ‘improving’ on some of the other things?
Stop and reverse the illegal invasion FIRST. Then maybe we’ll talk.
The usual response from RINOs is “we can walk and chew gum at the same time”. Yeah? Well we’re not. 10,000/wk are waltzing in here illegally, poisoning our politics, our culture, our ‘safety net’ welfare system, raping, killing, and destroying property.
It is supposed to be America first.
So if employer sponsorship isn't needed then anyone can apply for an H1-B visa with the expectation of a Green Card at the end? Instant permanent residency without all that waiting? Nice for them, not so hot for the U.S. citizen whose job they take.
While I can relate to your response, I really don't see why people are surprised by this. I'm certainly not. Disappointed yes, but not surprised. Trump has used the equivalent of H1B (I forget what exact program they call under) for his hotels and other businesses. He doesn't see why we have problems with these programs, and since both the democrat and republican parties are fully on board the cheap labor express, no one is going to gainsay his current perceptions.
H2-B. And unfortunately I'm not surprised by this either.
There need to be a hell of a lot fewer H1B visas handed out. The banks are stuffed full of cut rate H1B Indians.
If the aim is to bring in skills the country does not have and needs like highly skilled engineers for example....fine. If however the program is used as it is now - to bring in white collar workers en masse to crush Americans’ bargaining power in their own country then hell no.
No argument there.
If the aim is to bring in skills the country does not have and needs like highly skilled engineers for example....fine. If however the program is used as it is now - to bring in white collar workers en masse to crush Americans’ bargaining power in their own country then hell no.
That's what it's become. That's what it will continue to be. And the President's proposed changes will only make it harder on native born engineers, scientists, IT workers, medical workers, etc., etc.
What we need to do is make it expensive enough to get one that companies will not sponsor an H1B visa unless they really need the skill the person brings. It needs to be MORE EXPENSIVE to sponsor an H1B visa than it would be to hire an American for the same job. The key there being MORE EXPENSIVE. That will eliminate the cheap labor express.
I meant not needing employer sponsorship for Green Card.
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