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This is why the Shutdown won't end
AXIOS ^ | Jan 17, 2019

Posted on 01/17/2019 5:02:45 AM PST by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA

If 58% of Americans really don’t approve of building a wall to protect our country from illegal aliens this country is done.


21 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:46 AM PST by Pravious
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To: 11th_VA

When you have as prominent a Dem as Cher shouting to fund the Wall, it is ridiculous to pretend that Dem support is nearly nothing. I read a comment on my former home in California’s community website that said Trump should negotiate by offering to help the Dreamers. I’m thinking ‘these people are not getting full news, must be watching the Lamestream Media’. I suspect it is a majority of Dems that want some sort of barrier, but the ‘news’ would NEVER report that.


22 posted on 01/17/2019 5:24:12 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: 11th_VA
Axios is where the founders of Politico went after they successfully institutionalized Politico as a news source.

It seems they are on a mission to spawn one liberal news website after another to create a liberal echo chamber.

-PJ

23 posted on 01/17/2019 5:25:54 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: 11th_VA

The Democrats set this trap.

They not been able to separate President Trump from his base (and if they can not separate him from the base they cannot impeach nor will they be able to beat him in the next election).

So they set it up to be a “read my lips” situation to force the President to go back on one of his major campaign promises. Border security and a wall.

This has always worked for them in the past. But it is not working now. The reason, President Trump owed no one but the American people that voted for him anything.

Not the GOP
Not Big business
Not the media

They have no leverage over him.

And contrary to the opinion of this article, the shutdown will not go on forever. Pressure is building but it is the Democrats that will cave first and they are the ones that will pay the political price.

The joy comes from knowing they did it to themselves.


24 posted on 01/17/2019 5:32:28 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: TigerClaws

No - that would invite too many enemies against him.
Lobbyists for programs not germane to the wall will eventually tell Democrats to reopen the government.


25 posted on 01/17/2019 5:36:14 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: 11th_VA

POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows. Fully 44 percent of voters support construction of a border wall, slightly fewer than the 47 percent who oppose it.

Slightly different numbers here.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/trump-government-shutdown-border-wall-national-emergency-poll-1102366


26 posted on 01/17/2019 5:36:46 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: MichaelCorleone

Yep. this actually IS the hill to die on.

This wasn’t even an issue for me during the election. It is number one now. I’m also looking forward to the RIF as well.


27 posted on 01/17/2019 5:38:46 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: READINABLUESTATE

fabricated poll, is it not.

the majority of people want the pollsters used
as mortar for the wall.


28 posted on 01/17/2019 5:40:21 AM PST by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: Pravious

Maybe the poll is sampling illlegal aliens.


29 posted on 01/17/2019 5:42:03 AM PST by amihow
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To: MichaelCorleone

This definitely is the hill on which to die. We’ve come this far and can’t retreat now. Absolutely cannot! I can’t believe the resolve of PDJT, and his superhuman strength, but chalk it up to God’s help.


30 posted on 01/17/2019 5:49:11 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: SmokingJoe

The polls used to show it the other way. They just dialed the polls to fit their agenda.


31 posted on 01/17/2019 5:50:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“I don’t believe 58% oppose.”

The question was framed in a way that would elicit a high number opposing the wall. When you change the question to border security, the number is flipped.


32 posted on 01/17/2019 5:50:47 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("We The People" have turned into "You, The Subjects.")
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To: 11th_VA

Of course the shutdown will end.


33 posted on 01/17/2019 5:51:23 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

58% of people without a day job who have land lines....that is who they talk to...


34 posted on 01/17/2019 5:58:31 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Fresh Wind
Thanks for posting this reality and breath of sanity!

Axios and Pew. No bias there. Nope.

35 posted on 01/17/2019 6:07:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals//GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!')
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To: goldstategop

Trump should adjourn Congress until after the next election.

Nothing is going to get done anyway.

Nah! Let them rant and rave on tv and pass stupid bills in the house to be voted against in the Senate or vetoed by President Trump.

This will cost them, the elections in 2020 as they turn off the real independent voters everyday.

Also, we the Deploreables will become even more Deploreable and backing President Trump even more in 2020.


36 posted on 01/17/2019 6:12:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals//GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!')
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To: 11th_VA
Don't believe these bogus polls.

If a country can't control its borders and decide who comes in and who doesn't, it will soon cease to be a country.

37 posted on 01/17/2019 6:39:57 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Trudeau never saw a gay pride parade he didn't want to join.)
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To: 11th_VA

After being embarrassed by the pregnant silence of their usual lying pollsters, the Dems must have ordered them to get back to work producing their lies, damned lies and statistics.

I won’t be surprised if we find out later, that they had to sink to new depths of blatant fraud to produce favorable numbers on this.


38 posted on 01/17/2019 6:54:46 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: goldstategop

Bret Bair couldn’t gather up a decent question and answer of this dude Steny Hoyer? The guy is kicking as stammering and lying.

I was squirming, thinking why doesn’t Bair simply ask him, “Why don’t you just give in a little and get the wall built? If it doesn’t work, where they put it up, then you don’t provided anymore funding.”

Their reasoning is ridiculous. The man is president, and he wants the wall in various parts of the border.


39 posted on 01/17/2019 6:57:38 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: SmokingJoe

I would say 90% of Americans, esp Latino citizen, are in favor of strong border security. The president wants funding that includes building a fixed barrier in various places. THe money is really small in comparison to the rest of the budget.

Why don’t they give him what he wants?


40 posted on 01/17/2019 7:00:25 AM PST by nikos1121
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