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Part II – The Presidential Declassification Counter-Punch…
CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE ^ | 1/29/2019 | SUNDANCE

Posted on 01/30/2019 7:33:58 AM PST by bitt

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1 posted on 01/30/2019 7:33:58 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 01/30/2019 7:34:16 AM PST by bitt (forget the electric chair..we're gonna need electric bleachers!)
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To: bitt

What Trump needs to do, what he should have done the moment it surfaced that there were irregularities in the access to the NSA database (which Adm Rogers put a stop to) and in FISA warrants, is appoint a second Special Counsel to investigate the FBI, the DOJ, the NSA and the CIA and put some of these people in prison.

Mueller and the Dems/GOPe can’t claim a second Special Counsel is obstruction of justice; it IS justice. It is working within the justice process.

The second Special Counsel should be someone with a history of being a very tough prosecutor in a red state and no past connection to the DOJ or the FBI.

And that person will need a team of very good investigators not previously entangled with the FBI.


3 posted on 01/30/2019 7:46:08 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: NewJerseyJoe

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4 posted on 01/30/2019 7:46:18 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: bitt

I believe he over thought his argument.

This is rich. Someone launches a fraudulent investigation, and the one exposing the fraud incurs more guilt, by way of obstruction of justice, than the one committing the fraud.

All that is necessary is to release the documents.


5 posted on 01/30/2019 7:47:55 AM PST by odawg
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To: Meet the New Boss

The GOP doesn’t want Obama’s crimes subject to criminal prosecution. They have proven they won’t support POTUS on this and he needs them covering his flanks to do it. That’s the bottom line.


6 posted on 01/30/2019 7:50:23 AM PST by lodi90
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To: odawg

All that is necessary is to release the documents.


I doubt it. At this point after two years of non stop gaslighting by both Democrats/MSM and the GOP I don’t think many minds will be changed.


7 posted on 01/30/2019 7:51:45 AM PST by lodi90
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He left out the charging documents/instructions to the Mule Team by RosenWeasel. There are at least two and likely more.


8 posted on 01/30/2019 8:11:50 AM PST by Sa-teef
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To: lodi90; odawg

All that is necessary is to release the documents.

I doubt it. At this point after two years of non stop gaslighting by both Democrats/MSM and the GOP I don’t think many minds will be changed.
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This is why the media/DNC/GOPe have spent as much time as possible using the word ‘lie’ in conjunction w/POTUS.


9 posted on 01/30/2019 8:21:14 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: lodi90

“I don’t think many minds will be changed.”

Then I suppose we should not fight and just surrender.

If you can no longer use truth to fight, then you just as well give it up.


10 posted on 01/30/2019 8:34:59 AM PST by odawg
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Call Mueller into Oval Office and demand leaker of Stone’s raid to CNN or lose national security clearance by end of the week. If unable to comply, have Mueller leave his resignation on the President’s desk on the way out. Dismissed.


11 posted on 01/30/2019 8:49:32 AM PST by RideForever
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To: lodi90

The GOP doesn’t want Obama’s crimes subject to criminal prosecution. They have proven they won’t support POTUS on this and he needs them covering his flanks to do it. That’s the bottom line.


Having watched the movie Snowden it appears to me that all of Congress knows that at any time regardless of party an individual can be destroyed directly or indirectly by the info gathered by the NSA

Obama took Hillarys FBI file threat to the next level, and everyone lives in fear of
their turn coming...

The MSM knows this is bigger than watergate, but they play the protector part as they also know they can be hung out to dry whenever necessary.


12 posted on 01/30/2019 8:53:23 AM PST by patriotspride
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Documents should be released post indictments as evidence at trials.

Obama is to be left out. If the various trials implicate him, he can be delt with directly outside the courts.


13 posted on 01/30/2019 9:01:43 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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To: patriotspride

Having watched the movie Snowden it appears to me that all of Congress knows that at any time regardless of party an individual can be destroyed directly or indirectly by the info gathered by the NSA

Obama took Hillarys FBI file threat to the next level, and everyone lives in fear of
their turn coming...


I don’t believe that. It’s not fear that drives them. It’s greed. Getting as rich as possible and setting up their kids to do the same.


14 posted on 01/30/2019 9:05:19 AM PST by lodi90
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To: RideForever

“Call Mueller into Oval Office and demand leaker of Stone’s raid to CNN or lose national security clearance by end of the week. If unable to comply, have Mueller leave his resignation on the President’s desk on the way out. Dismissed.”

oh I like that - easy peasey.


15 posted on 01/30/2019 9:20:19 AM PST by bitt (forget the electric chair..we're gonna need electric bleachers!)
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To: lodi90
You're right of course - so the issue is how one deals with the facts on the ground.

Look, anyone with any sense of history knows the USA wasn't going to last forever. Aging is a result of imperfect cell replication; so too populations, where each successive generation experiences mutations. At present, we are so far removed from the original governing & organizing principles that it's really just a monster at this point.

Since there are no longer any political corrective measures that can applied, we've reached the stage where every civilization has gone before. What comes next is a battle for control, where the loser is barred from the public sphere. Patriots know exactly what progs intend, but how many nationalists are willing to apply the same measures? Trump had his chance, but in the final analysis, it's clear he really didn't want to be "that guy". Too bad, because deferring the situation is only going to make it worse.

However, what's really going to make things 'interesting' are larger scale issues that normal political conversations don't address. I'm speaking about resource constraints, such as peak oil, overpopulation and environmental degradation. The conflicts already occurring on the margins - in the least developed nations - is what's driving the migratory herds to first world countries.

Add to this mix a whole host of scientific and technical advances in genetic engineering, atomic level computing (sensory devices + computational abilities), etc and it's going to be a wide open fight for control. I for one have pretty much conceded any short-term concern - it's really just a waste of time. Of far more interest is puzzling out the medium term game and being financially positioned.

16 posted on 01/30/2019 9:21:30 AM PST by semantic
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Having heard the pablum spewing Trey Gowdy (now no longer a Congressman grandstander who did NOTHING, with hitlery or with any of this Intel scandal), on Brian Kilmeade’s milquetoast radio show yesterday-— it had better not be him as a “kick the can down the road” show biz Special Counsel.

The key to this entire “cleanup” is to remove the “Rice Bowl” (an Asian concept) that is paying ANY of the actors in the DOJ, FBI, Intel... wherever. Remove the means of income— and that includes Fusion GPS types AND the paymaster law firms like Perkins, Coie. So far the overall result is a William Barr— who was in GHWBush’s admin— and definitely NOT the person to clean any of this up— unless it is to “get things back to where they are” with cocaine funded intel and internal operations moving forward.


17 posted on 01/30/2019 9:21:53 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: odawg

Damn straight— and let our ‘five eyes’ so called pals understand we are not going to protect their own crooks. The GAME is OVER, pals.

Not even to work with Steele, whose firm was called... Walsingham, UK.... as in Elizabeth I’s spymaster-— no kidding.

Employed by the Royals to protect them from the pedophile scandal wrought by Epstein, and his “parties” with Prince Andrew... and yes, Fergie. Both a couple of pervos. Randy Andy photo’d with Russian pedo age females (at least) and maybe more. Trump.... a huge threat to the “cover” the clintons (as equal and much wider pals as participants, and on the aircraft manifest having gone to said pedo island) could provide. IOW it was an operation to make sure she was elected, to insure none of them (including Dershowitz) were exposed.

Declas will expose a hell of a lot more than just this. The Podestas? What about them and their pervo pals. It is NOT OK to let them go.


18 posted on 01/30/2019 9:28:16 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: patriotspride

Agree— totally. obamaumao and ValJar have a LOT coming to them. It will require our entire white hat DOJ and FBI to get this done.

First off— get rid of every identified obamaumaobots in the organizations. This is waaay beyond politics. It is Clear and Present Danger.


19 posted on 01/30/2019 9:30:30 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: semantic

Finely tuned analysis and well put. The “turd” world “migratory” masses being employed against the 1st World, including what is left of Western Civilization in Europe. Any proper reaction to this purposeful degradation being dismissed as being “white” when it is indeed not just... white. It is civilization vd. apocalyptic groveling masses of “eaters”.

“Eaters” btw is a term used in the novel “One Second After” by William Forstchen-— post EMP attack US, major infrastructure dependent on electronics, computers, and modern engineering all regressed to the 19th Century (horses, mules, nascent engineering). “Eaters” of course being cannibals, who, once the Twinkie and canned goods have all been hoarded/consumed... then move to the areas of the country where survival is possible to those who know how, so they can kill/consume those foods and/or the survivors.

Of course, politically, these same “eater” breeding stock are trying—Cloward Piven and Alinsky strategies- to overwhelm the delivery systems of government, to drive the system to failure and create chaos, into which steps the communists (whose first task is eliminate the anarchists, and separately, anybody who knows how to take care of themselves) as the “leaders”. Balkanization, and gangland.


20 posted on 01/30/2019 9:40:28 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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