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Dems on House Committee Move to Strike 'God' Reference in Oath
Townhall.com ^ | January 30, 2019 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 01/30/2019 10:46:51 AM PST by Kaslin

The Democrat-controlled House Committee on Natural Resources may soon strike the reference to God in the oath given to witnesses testifying before the panel, according to a draft, Fox News reports.

Rather than including “so help you God,” at the end of the oath, it would instead read: "Do you solemnly swear or affirm, under penalty of law, that the testimony that you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?">

The rules proposal places the words "so help you God" in red brackets, indicating they are slated to be cut. The words "under penalty of law" are in red text, indicating that Democrats propose to add that phrasing to the oath.

The draft rules also remove the phrase "his or her" throughout the document, changing those two pronouns to "their." The rules additionally modify all references to the committee's "Chairman" to instead refer only to the committee's "Chair."

Other rules changes relate to expanding the committee's authority over natural gas in Alaska and fossil-fuel resources.

While many federal oaths include the phrase "so help me God," some -- most notably the presidential oath of office -- do not. (FoxNews.com)

A vote will be taken on the new language by the committee this week and will take effect immediately if approved.

House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told Fox News she's not surprised by the move.

"They really have become the party of Karl Marx," she said.

Notably, the Democratic Party also attempted to remove reference to God in their party platform in 2012, only for it to be reinserted after backlash.



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To: Kaslin

Godless


21 posted on 01/30/2019 11:44:46 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: SaveFerris; Mark17; SkyPilot

They can strike His name off all they want.
On the last day, He will strike them off for all eternity for denying His Kingship.

After 5 trillion years, it’s just getting started. Fools!


22 posted on 01/30/2019 11:48:53 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

“Separation of Church and state” is a falsehood, promulgated by those having an ignorance of American history. The phrase is a bastardization of a term used by Thomas Jefferson, in his letter of 1 January, 1802, to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut. The phrase has been hijacked, and used completely out of context, as a lever to remove God from the public square - a folly to which none of our founders would have given their assent.


23 posted on 01/30/2019 11:53:14 AM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Kaslin

Keep digging, Democrats!

Keep digging!


24 posted on 01/30/2019 12:06:51 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Taxman

Bingo.


25 posted on 01/30/2019 12:14:09 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: butlerweave

They are so clueless.

They are like two year olds who think that if they close their eyes, you can’t see them.


26 posted on 01/30/2019 12:16:13 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mears
The rats want the phrase under Godremoved. No way should it be removed.
27 posted on 01/30/2019 12:18:41 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: JME_FAN

Other’s may disagree with such an exegesis and they would have every right to do so. I certainly could not hold it against them if they felt the language in Matthew prohibited them from taking such an oath. They are certainly within their rights to insist on merely agreeing to tell the truth subject to the laws of perjury - which is all the Federal and most state Court systems require.


28 posted on 01/30/2019 12:32:09 PM PST by circlecity
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To: JME_FAN

Thanks for your comments.

There are really two components to the discussion:

1. Jefferson’s 1802 speech, upon which there are two opinions stated here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States

2. The original text of the 1st Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...”

In all fairness, it appears that the 1st Amendment makes the case by itself. If the gov’t requires respecting an establishment of religion (e.g. requires people to say “so help me God” in court oaths) then the gov’t is essentially contradicting the 1st Amendment, is it not?


29 posted on 01/30/2019 12:33:11 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Kaslin

One Nation Under...


30 posted on 01/30/2019 12:41:47 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Kaslin

...only because they weren’t allowed to boo God.


31 posted on 01/30/2019 12:44:25 PM PST by OrangeHoof (When the Rapture occurs, CNN will still be fully staffed.)
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To: JME_FAN

What was the original term?


32 posted on 01/30/2019 12:47:59 PM PST by George Rand (-- I can't befriend liberals because I won't befriend ignorance --)
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To: Kaslin

Who needs Schultz as Independent. Trump will walk to victory in 2020 against nitwits like these, with or without a second leftard party.


33 posted on 01/30/2019 12:51:01 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SaveFerris
Thank you SaveFerris!

That was nice of you to say.

34 posted on 01/30/2019 1:00:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: DoughtyOne

;)


35 posted on 01/30/2019 1:04:05 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: George Rand

Jefferson argued the point that the Constitution’s establishment clause forbade the government from creating a “state religion.” He did not express nor intend (by even a cursory review of his writings) any opinion forbidding the mention or inclusion of God in the public square, including government. A simple review of the writings of our founders, and their contemporaries, refutes this asinine insistence that a “separation of Church and State” requires the absolute and total banishment of God from the Public square. In fact, quite the opposite is true - and I could provide a litany of examples to support this contention.

Here is a link to the letter: https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html


36 posted on 01/30/2019 1:14:40 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
After 5 trillion years, it’s just getting started. Fools!

You are correct sir, but how about this, for perspective? If a bird flew by Mount Everest every 5 trillion years, and rubbed a grain of sand off the mountain, by the time that bird wore that mountain down flat, eternity will have just begun. Does that put it in perspective? 😁👍

37 posted on 01/30/2019 1:49:21 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: JME_FAN
Jefferson argued the point that the Constitution’s establishment clause forbade the government from creating a “state religion.”

I think the government has already violated that idea, and has established the religion of peace, as its state religion. 👎😤🤬

38 posted on 01/30/2019 1:55:39 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD.... And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., told Fox News she's not surprised by the move. "They really have become the party of Karl Marx," she said.

39 posted on 01/30/2019 3:07:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Kaslin

Godless Communists one and all


40 posted on 01/30/2019 3:10:30 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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