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Marijuana and psychosis: Real data, real bad
Christian Post ^ | April 4, 2019 | John Stonestreet and Roberto Rivera

Posted on 04/04/2019 1:01:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing

Both groups were surveyed on a host of factors, including their use of marijuana and other drugs. The study’s authors concluded that “people who smoked marijuana on a daily basis were three times more likely to be diagnosed with psychosis compared with people who never used the drug. For those who used high-potency marijuana daily, the risk jumped to nearly five times."

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To: kaehurowing

Article is a fail. Correlation is not causation. I won’t bother with an analogy to prove that principle because the average reader here just doesn’t need it.

That being said, moderation in all things. Just enough to relieve pain or nausea really helps sometimes, and as well to improve focus. I know of what I speak since I’m an old-school coder who also has been through toxic chemo twice.

These days with the wide array of affordable edibles available, there is no need to inhale or smoke anything to get therapeutic low dosages. But totally baked is no way to go through life.


101 posted on 04/04/2019 4:00:03 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: NobleFree; All

“If you do not believe that marijuana or THC has negative consequences
Alcohol has negative consequences - should it be banned?”

Did I say the word banned? I don’t believe I did, so you are putting words in my mouth and I do not appreciate that.

What I do know is that there is a term used which dates back thousands of years and the term is intoxicant. The root of that word is toxic which relates to a poison.

It is a freedom of choice if one chooses to poison themselves. It becomes a dangerous choice is if one chooses to poison themselves and then drives down the road or act in such a way that kills, maimes, and destroys. That intoxicated choice overstepped personal freedoms and inflicted pain,suffering, and a loss of freedom negating ANY choice for those whom have become victimized by the intoxicated choices of others.

Responsibility goes hand in hand with choice and freedom.

Consequences? Sure. Quality of life? Sure. But they are choices too. Am I on the hook for paying up on someone’s else’s poor choices? Sure I am, just like ever other taxpayer.


102 posted on 04/04/2019 4:26:24 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: steve86
it is not an effective cancer treatment

Tell that to the tens of thousands of late stage cancer sufferers whose conditions only improved after finally resorting to THC oil.

103 posted on 04/04/2019 4:52:55 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: neverevergiveup
It could certainly be that people with psychosis are more likely to start smoking marijuana, instead of a causation relationship.

I'd also like to see a comparison with alcohol. I could easily imagine that "people who drank alcohol on a daily basis were three times more likely to be diagnosed with psychosis compared with people who never drank."

104 posted on 04/04/2019 5:04:36 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Reno89519

the reason the left is so intent on legalizing pot is that it make the public docile and easier to manipulate.


105 posted on 04/04/2019 5:12:08 PM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: BeauBo

Fine, clear, no-nonsense post.

Thanks.


106 posted on 04/04/2019 5:21:45 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Windflier

Lost my wife.


107 posted on 04/04/2019 5:25:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Antoninus

I really don’t understand why pot people cannot see how a chemical that immediately impairs your brain, judgement and causes physcosis and paranoia while using could actually possibly cause permanent brain damage and mental disorders. Why is it so hard to accept?


108 posted on 04/04/2019 6:02:09 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: kaehurowing

... still waiting for psychosis.


109 posted on 04/04/2019 6:07:17 PM PDT by rhombus10
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To: steve86

My condolences on your loss, Steve.

Cancer is such an ugly business.


110 posted on 04/04/2019 6:13:35 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I agree. There's definitely an alcohol induced acute psychosis, and people with alcohol induced encephalopathy can have psychotic symptoms, but I don't know about the likelihood of psychosis in alcohol drinkers vs non-drinkers.
111 posted on 04/04/2019 6:13:52 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: steve86

plenty of other non drug ways to get to sleep.


112 posted on 04/04/2019 6:41:34 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: kaehurowing
The contribution of cannabis use to variation in the incidence of psychotic disorder across Europe (EU-GEI): a multicentre case-control study

Methods
We applied adjusted logistic regression models to data from patients aged 18–65 years presenting to South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust with first-episode psychosis and population controls recruited from the same area of south London (UK) to estimate the effect of the frequency of use, and type of cannabis used on the risk of psychotic disorders. We then calculated the proportion of new cases of psychosis attributable to different types of cannabis use in south London.

Summary
The evidence reporting the dose-dependent association between cannabis use and psychotic disorders has been summarised in the meta-analysis by Marconi and colleagues. We searched PubMed for studies published up to March 31, 2018, that had specifically measured the impact of high-potency cannabis use on the odds of psychotic disorder (not psychotic symptoms or psychosis in general) or that had calculated the proportion of new cases of psychotic disorder arising in specific populations that were attributable to the use of high-potency cannabis, using the terms “psychotic disorders” and “high potency cannabis” or “skunk-super skunk” or “high THC cannabis”; we also included the term “population attributable fraction”.

Arianna Marconi, MD - Proportion of patients in south London with first-episode psychosis attributable to use of high potency cannabis: a case-control study
A possible limitation of our study is the absence of data on number of joints or grams used per day. However, because we collected information about use over a period of years and not about present use, the reliability of such detailed information would probably have been confounded by recall bias to a greater extent than was the general description of pattern of use that we obtained. The fact that we were able to collect detailed information on other environmental factors and control for their potential confounding effects is a key strength of our study.

And on and on it goes. Proof of suppositions, nothing more.

I can provide even further evidence of more suppositions if you like.

113 posted on 04/04/2019 7:22:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: b4me

Not that work for me. Wonderful if they do for you.


114 posted on 04/04/2019 7:29:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Windflier

Yes.

Please make sure it is very high quality and don’t skimp on it even if it bombs you. Take as much as you can handle. A few months of sleeping and being stoned is better than taking a too small of a dose and the cancer isn’t eliminated. I have seen both. I get the psychoactiveness is very uncomfortable but this is life and death fight and it is the cancer that must lose the fight. Some just could not handle the psychoactiveness and didn’t take enough to beat the cancer. I know others who were told there was nothing Dr’s could do and would soon die, but are alive today with cancer gone.

In my prayers Windflier..all the best.


115 posted on 04/04/2019 9:42:47 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: kaehurowing

It’s all about the chocolate


116 posted on 04/04/2019 10:05:52 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Windflier

“In a nutshell, the THC molecule kills cancer cells on contact. “

so does laundry bleach ...


117 posted on 04/04/2019 10:15:08 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: BeauBo

That is interesting. I knew someone who had Schizophrenia and Sativa made him more psychotic, while Indica greatly reduce voices, delusions and other psychotic brain effects.


118 posted on 04/04/2019 10:15:37 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life
Please make sure it is very high quality and don’t skimp on it even if it bombs you. Take as much as you can handle. A few months of sleeping and being stoned is better than taking a too small of a dose and the cancer isn’t eliminated.

Thank you, friend. I'm taking as much as is recommended, and then some. I've built up quite a tolerance to the psychoactive effects, so that's no longer an issue.

We're also careful to obtain the best quality we can find.

I'm close to halfway through the recommended 90 day treatment and am beginning to sense some change in my condition. It's tough to explain it to others. I've just noticed slight improvements with lots of little things that might not mean anything to someone else.

I guess you'd have to be in my body to perceive it.

Thank you so much for your encouragement.

119 posted on 04/04/2019 10:22:52 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: kaehurowing

BTTT for morning coffee.


120 posted on 04/04/2019 10:25:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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