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POTUS Showing His Gun Control Colors Again
White House Comment Log ^ | 6-2-2019 | White House Comment Log

Posted on 06/03/2019 5:25:40 AM PDT by JamesP81

“Q The suspect in the Virginia Beach shooting used a silencer on his weapon. Do you believe that silencers should be restricted?

THE PRESIDENT: I don’t like them at all.”

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TOPICS: US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; bumpstockban; bumpstocks; guncontrol; ohno; silencers; trollalert; trump; trumpbanglist
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To: JamesP81

Yeah right keep thinking that.


161 posted on 06/03/2019 8:23:54 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: NELSON111

In case you haven’t noticed, while I initially didn’t see the value of keeping them among civilian public (I do now, however), I had no intention of restricting guns or banning them outright, as they are the only way of ensuring self-defense.


162 posted on 06/03/2019 8:26:49 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: Ancesthntr

Yeah, back then, I might not have thought it through, and if anything, I have to thank some users on here for setting me straight.


163 posted on 06/03/2019 8:27:21 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: NorthMountain

In your post 17 you stated among other things, that the Second Amendment was about killing tyrants. You set up that parameter. I didn’t.

I would also add that it’s about personal defense.

Bump stocks and silencers are not necessary to kill tyrants or mount a personal defense.

An AR-15 or a myriad of other firearm weapons most certainly are required to kill tyrants or mount a personal defense.

Denying any of this is the silliness.


164 posted on 06/03/2019 8:30:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: DoughtyOne
No, an AR-15 is not "necessary" to kill tyrants or common criminals. Other weapons could do the job.

You're introducing the Sarah Brady argument: You don't need that (whatever bogeyman weapon of the moment), therefore it's OK to ban it.

No sale.

165 posted on 06/03/2019 8:34:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

1. Yeah, I know. Problem is, their misuse of those rights leads to the rights themselves being tarnished at times. I don’t want rights to be outright abused precisely BECAUSE they tarnish those rights. In fact, my idea is if rights are abused, what’s the point in keeping them? My idea of rights is that they must be perfect and 100% effective.

2. I fully agree with you there. Our War of Independence is the closest thing we have to an exception, and even there, we nearly dodged a bullet regarding Thomas Jefferson.


166 posted on 06/03/2019 8:35:22 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: JamesP81

The “silencer” issue shows the absolute STUPIDITY of the gun laws. All because it has an “image” of being used by criminals and assassins... MOVIE BS!. If the left was consistent, they would DEMAND silencers on all guns .. to cut down on the decibels and PROTECT people from hearing loss. (They try to protect me from second hand smoke, which is bogus and not +100 decibel sound which is real?) And you should see the paperwork one has to CARRY AT ALL TIMES when you have the Suppressor mounted. I had to get a special case for my gun to go to the range to hold the damned paperwork. (Also it took 3 years to get it approved).


167 posted on 06/03/2019 8:35:50 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: otness_e
My idea of rights is that they must be perfect and 100% effective.

Please elaborate on that point. Thanks.

168 posted on 06/03/2019 8:37:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

I stated an AR-15 OR another firearm.

I don’t really care if you’re buying or not. People with common sense will.

Sarah Brady advocated for banning weapons. I haven’t. You do realize that right?


169 posted on 06/03/2019 8:38:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
And you should see the paperwork one has to CARRY AT ALL TIMES when you have the Suppressor mounted. I had to get a special case for my gun to go to the range to hold the damned paperwork. (Also it took 3 years to get it approved).

All of which clearly illustrates the complete absurdity of both the question and the President's answer. Is it possible that neither the reporter nor the President have the slightest clue how ridiculously restricted suppressors already are?

170 posted on 06/03/2019 8:39:38 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DoughtyOne
Firearm suppressors are weapons.

Do you advocate:

1) Banning them outright?

2) Maintaining the current transfer tax and restriction on ownership and transport?

3) Reducing the current restrictions?

4) Something else?

171 posted on 06/03/2019 8:41:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: JamesP81

I personally don’t like silencers. That make harder to quickly aquire the target and harder to maneuver in tight spaces.


172 posted on 06/03/2019 8:42:44 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: JamesP81

Troll thread, avoid as this is nonsense and disruptive


173 posted on 06/03/2019 8:43:18 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: All

Our guns and rights get jumped every time one of these killings happen. How about some death penalty arguments? The left has all but abolished real punishment for hideous crimes.


174 posted on 06/03/2019 8:44:23 AM PDT by Luke21 (Vote, vote, vote doesn't work, work work.)
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To: NorthMountain

Yeah, they’re a weapon if you pick one up and throw it. So is a rock. Does the Second Amendment cover our right to possess and throw rocks too?

Silliness indeed.

Firearms are weapons. A suppressor is not a weapon.

You can’t load one. You cannot fire one. You can fire any weapon without one.

No one has advocated for banning them.


175 posted on 06/03/2019 8:48:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: NorthMountain

By that, I mean are never abused, are never violated, everyone follows them to the letter, are not flawed in ANY WAY. When they are violated, abused, in any way, they’re broken, plain and simple.


176 posted on 06/03/2019 8:51:12 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: NorthMountain; DoughtyOne
Firearm suppressors are weapons. Do you advocate:

1) Banning them outright?

2) Maintaining the current transfer tax and restriction on ownership and transport?

3) Reducing the current restrictions?

4) Something else?

4) The United States Government issues one for every single firearm owned in the United States, including for firearms that cannot truly use them (such as revolvers).

177 posted on 06/03/2019 8:51:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: papertyger

I have not never would and never will make a death threat. There are good reading comprehension courses out there. I suggest you take one


178 posted on 06/03/2019 8:52:42 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: otness_e
To be fair, I’m doubtful the founding fathers necessarily envisioned silencers when they created the second amendment.

Do you think cars will be more advanced 100 years from now? Computers? Phones?

Things change, things evolve. New inventions will come. Every person who has ever lived understood that's the way things work in this world.

But somehow, these men, who were thinking years into the future, trying to set up a government that would last for centuries, thought the black powder musket was to be the pinnacle in weaponry forever.

Please be careful repeating leftist talking points because they are really, really stupid.

It's not about guns. It's about a safety net for the resistance of government tyranny. Having powerful weapons just happens to be the only way. The Founders wanted the citizens to be able to quickly form an army that could fight against a Federal force turned upon the people. That's the only thing they envisioned in drafting the 2nd Amendment.


179 posted on 06/03/2019 8:53:21 AM PDT by itzmygun (Elitism + Hatred of Mankind = Today's "Liberalism")
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To: itzmygun

Oh, I fully agree with that, that weapons are the only surefire way for resistance of government tyranny. Unfortunately, the French Revolution ALSO showed instances where it doesn’t do any good against stopping actual bad people, and if anything makes things worse, like crowds laughing as a guy bled out to death from being shot by shotguns as recounted in Operation Parricide. And bear in mind, that was the progenitor of liberalism/leftism.


180 posted on 06/03/2019 8:56:03 AM PDT by otness_e
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