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AOC Got a Pass on the Cost of 'Free'
Townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2019 | Larry Elder

Posted on 06/20/2019 4:26:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

ABC's Jonathan Karl recently interviewed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. Karl asked no question and did not call for a clarification when Ocasio-Cortez, presumably referring to the Mueller report, spoke about "the abundance of evidence, 10 counts of obstruction of justice, four with rock-solid evidence" against President Donald Trump. A "count" means a specific accusation of a crime. The Mueller report made no such accusation.

Even worse, Karl, with not one follow-up question, allowed Ocasio-Cortez to rattle off her progressive agenda -- which includes free college tuition, government health care for all and a $15 minimum wage indexed to inflation. After Karl's AOC interview, studio panelist and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie pointed out that AOC's programs "cost trillions of dollars" and Karl "did not ask" about the programs' price tag nor whom she expects to pay for it.

So let's examine the cost of "free" college and debt forgiveness.

About Sen. Bernie Sanders' "College for All Act," the Vermont independent's office said the act would "eliminate tuition and fees at four-year public colleges and universities for families making up to $125,000 -- about 80% of the population -- and make community college tuition- and fee-free for all." Sanders said, "If we are to succeed in a highly competitive global economy and have the best-educated workforce in the world, public colleges and universities must become tuition-free for working families and we must substantially reduce student debt." But what about the price tag?

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., goes even further, wanting to eliminate current student debt. Warren said: "The student debt crisis is real and it's crushing millions of people -- especially people of color. It's time to decide: Are we going to be a country that only helps the rich and powerful get richer and more powerful, or are we going to be a country that invests in its future?"

So what is the price tag for "free" college and the elimination of college debt?

The conservative Heritage Foundation said in 2017: "High college costs exacerbated by overgenerous federal lending policies have encouraged more students to take on high levels of student loan debt. As a result, graduates often leave college unprepared to pursue their career and life goals and are saddled with a debt burden that limits their upward mobility. There was a time when a small amount of savings and a part-time job could get students through college with little or no debt. But today, more students than ever are turning to federal loans to finance their college education." In short, federal money incentivizes colleges to increase tuition. More federal money would simply increase that incentive.

Neal McClusky is the director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom. "'Free' would have to be paid for with tax dollars," McClusky wrote, "and looking at colleges' current tuition and fee revenue, and income directly from government, gives a rough sense of how much it would cost. Using the most recent federal data, it comes to roughly $339 billion annually, or about $1,360 for every adult in the United States. If you live to age 75 and pay that annually in taxes starting at age 18, that's $77,500 -- not free at all."

What is the price tag for college debt forgiveness? A lot. According the American Enterprise Institute's Frederick Hess: "(Warren's) proposal is projected to cost $640 billion, though some estimates suggest the figure could be north of $900 billion. As one might expect, Warren's proposal disproportionately benefits affluent families, since working class and low-income households are much less likely to have attended college at all -- much less to have racked up substantial student debt."

Finally, the left-wing Brookings Institute questions whether student loan debt is a truly a "crisis" at all, let alone one that necessitates debt forgiveness. In a 2014 article called "Is A Student Debt Crisis on the Horizon?" Brookings co-writers Beth Akers and Matthew M. Chingos say the answer is "no." Brookings' summary of their report says: "Although the data analyzed confirm significant increases in average debt levels, they provide little indication of a significant contingent of borrowers with enormous debt loads. In 2010, only two percent of young households owed more than $100,000 on their student loans. Ultimately, Akers and Chingos conclude that typical borrowers are no worse off now than they were a generation ago, and also suggest that the borrowers struggling with high debt loads frequently featured in media coverage may not be part of a new or growing phenomenon."

When one asks, "Who pays, how much will it cost, and will it achieve its objective?" most governments schemes fall apart. Free college tuition and debt forgiveness do, too.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alexocasocortez; aoc; collegecosts; collegedebt; collegetuition; demonraticsocialism; economics; freecollege; socialism

1 posted on 06/20/2019 4:26:56 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Fact-checking is only done by the MSM to advance Democrat talking points.


2 posted on 06/20/2019 4:38:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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.,...can guess AOC hasn’t read the report since it’s a notch or two above “See Spot Run”


3 posted on 06/20/2019 4:43:54 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Kaslin

More of how many reporters are not just liberal leaning, but also lazy, ignorant, opinionated, and intellectually dishonest. Seem all of that goes hand in hand, doesn’t it?


4 posted on 06/20/2019 4:46:49 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are just allowed to “say stuff” and the media lets them get away with it.


5 posted on 06/20/2019 4:49:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 06/20/2019 4:59:39 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: ClearCase_guy

Expect it to only get worse as the Left tightens its grip on the Internet while the GOP sits on their hands and lets them take it.


7 posted on 06/20/2019 4:59:49 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ClearCase_guy

Expect it to only get worse as the Left tightens its grip on the Internet while the GOP sits on their hands and lets them take it.


8 posted on 06/20/2019 4:59:54 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

That was worth saying twice.


9 posted on 06/20/2019 5:04:36 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam stupid!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s not like Congress has to live within a budget.

They don’t seem to be bothered by the deficit so I guess AOC thinks it’s ALL free.


10 posted on 06/20/2019 5:07:02 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: Kaslin

Has she set up her office in NYC yet?

Has she helped anyone in her district yet?


11 posted on 06/20/2019 5:11:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin

“ABC’s Jonathan Karl recently interviewed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. Karl asked no question and did not call for a clarification ... Even worse, Karl, with not one follow-up question, allowed Ocasio-Cortez to rattle off her progressive agenda ...”

Karl is a loyal leftist bootlicker.

And Occasional-Cortex practically flies into a rage when anyone questions her policy positions, good little totalitarian that she is.


12 posted on 06/20/2019 5:27:38 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Kaslin

lets make teachers govt. employees too then.

no more $400,000 salaries for teaching 1 class.

9-to-5 EVERY DAY


13 posted on 06/20/2019 5:49:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Kaslin

‘Overgenerous federal lending policies’

Thank you, Obama. Our Government assuring student loans is just a scheme to bankrupt the country. You can only implement a new system of governing, SOCIALISM, after you have destroyed the system already in place. Bankrupting the country is just the first step. And ALL the Dem prospects are championing loan forgiveness. No surprise.


14 posted on 06/20/2019 6:14:34 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Kaslin

In a typical exercise in fudgy D.C. accounting they’ll offset the actual costs with a bunch of phantom benefits (higher incomes, more spending on homes and big ticket items, increased economic activity, etc.)


15 posted on 06/20/2019 6:40:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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....presumably referring to Mueller's report, AOC recounted the rock-solid evidence he produced:
"10 counts of obstruction of justice, four with rock-solid evidence." (A "count" is a specific accusation of a crime).
NOTE: The Mueller report made no such accusation.

Looks like she doesn't understand "big words."

16 posted on 06/20/2019 7:03:05 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Kaslin
".... There was a time when a small amount of savings and a part-time job could get students through college with little or no debt..."

That's how I went to college. My parents didn't have much. But I worked three part-time jobs and took a full course load. Didn't have to borrow a dime. All I did was study and work. I was a starving student.

This student debt problem all started when Obama took the student loan program from the private sector and made it a government program.

If colleges and universities know the federal government will be lending money to students to pay tuition, guess what happens? Schools increase their tuition and the students have to borrow more money, a self-fulfilling failure.

Who would pay tens of thousands of dollars to go to school to get a degree that will not garner a job to pay for a massive student loan? Apparently those who are taught social justice but not finances.

My wife and I know 40 year old woman who owes $35,000 in student debt, didn't get a degree and works as a dishwasher in a restaurant. She's never paid a dime on the debt and never will.

This is what democRATic socialist policies gets us. Stupid college kids, deep in debt and no way to pay it back.

And you think it's bad now. Wait until the democRATS double-down on the problem and make college tuition FREE.

The students won't have massive student debt to pay but the colleges will stick it to the taxpayers for even higher tuitions. After all, the government is paying for it.

17 posted on 06/20/2019 8:09:10 AM PDT by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: bramps
That was worth saying twice.

A very common feature of posting forums is not allowing you to post twice within a certain amount of time, say 30 seconds. This eliminates most accidental double posts. For some reason that feature isn't available here.

18 posted on 06/22/2019 1:34:47 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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