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Targeting Chinese students and entrepreneurs in the U.S. is the wrong way to battle Beijing
Los Angeles Times ^ | 06/20/2019 | Dominic Ng

Posted on 06/20/2019 12:46:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As U.S.-China friction escalates, the rhetoric in Washington has grown increasingly ugly and hostile. The Trump administration, concerned about intellectual property theft and other questionable behavior on the part of Beijing, has embarked on a program of targeting students and professionals of Chinese descent. Not only are these actions antithetical to America’s immigrant roots, they are damaging to U.S. interests and competitiveness. Stoking racial divides is exactly the wrong way to fight the problem.

The U.S. has long had policy differences with the People’s Republic of China, but the current White House and the national security community have ratcheted up those differences into a war on Western democratic ideals.

In his testimony before Congress last year, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray said that Chinese students and researchers represented a “whole-of-society threat”; in other words, to the American way of life. Later, a State Department official, Kiron Skinner, racialized the conflict: For the first time, the U.S., she said, is facing “a great power competitor that is not Caucasian.”

This culturally charged, zero-sum mentality has already translated into anti-Chinese policies. Student and work visas for Chinese nationals have been curtailed. In early 2017, the Trump administration began whittling away at the Optional Practical Training Program, an important channel for Chinese students, especially STEM majors, wishing to stay and work in the U.S. Last year, Chinese nationals studying robotics, aviation and other high-tech subjects were issued one-year visas instead of five-year ones. The State Department also increased its scrutiny of visa applicants, causing major delays and uncertainty for tourists, students and for U.S. companies wishing to hire Chinese employees.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c100; china; committeeof100; dominicng; entrepreneurs; immigration; students
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1 posted on 06/20/2019 12:46:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why should we educate our enemies?


2 posted on 06/20/2019 12:49:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ya, LAT policy experts.....100% record...of being wrong.

Do the opposite of what ever they advise and you will do well.

3 posted on 06/20/2019 12:53:45 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess we can only look for non-existent spies from
Russia and not the armies of Chinese spies right under
our noses.


4 posted on 06/20/2019 12:55:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chinese in this country are very often spies for China. They are instructed, especially professors and students in the engineering and computer sciences fields, to sneak vital info to China. We should be monitoring these people a whole lot closer than we are.


5 posted on 06/20/2019 12:59:03 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: SeekAndFind

Then there’s driving Miss DiFi.


6 posted on 06/20/2019 1:00:33 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: SeekAndFind
Targeting Chinese students and entrepreneurs spies and agents in the U.S. is the wrong right way to battle Beijing

There, Fixed it.....

KYPD
7 posted on 06/20/2019 1:02:39 PM PDT by petro45acp (The mueller stink bomb, an intended distraction from the probe into zippy's deepstate meddling.)
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To: SeekAndFind
In areas that aren’t fenced off, the government should aggressively adopt and enforce laws and regulations meant to counter undesirable behavior. For example, better, more targeted background checks could keep researchers with unwanted affiliations out of U.S. universities. Companies known to steal intellectual property could be denied access to our markets. Offenses should be heavily penalized, but the grounds for investigation into espionage must be nondiscriminatory and based on facts, not on race.

I defy anyone to implement a policy that fixes the problem based on the "fuzziness" of the proposals mentioned here. It's easy to speak in platitudes, but giving concrete proposals isn't easy, as evidenced by their absence in this article. Bitching about something, from Capitalism to corporate espionage, means you have a better way of doing it. To you Snowflakes who think Socialism is the answer, please tell me why every attempt to implement it in the past 200+ years has failed. And don't give me that Norway-Sweden crap...neither are Socialist countries.

8 posted on 06/20/2019 1:06:13 PM PDT by econjack
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To: SeekAndFind

America First. I think we need to limit foreign nationals in general and leave more room for American citizens (of every race/ethnicity...but citizens nonetheless) at our universities and institutions.


9 posted on 06/20/2019 1:15:30 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: SeekAndFind

If there ever was an example of a sympathetic article for espionage,this was it.


10 posted on 06/20/2019 1:20:53 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a fact of life that most if not all Chinese students and entrepreneurs who have family in China feed information to the Chinese government. All Chinese high level techies and professors with family in China are almost all effectively spies.


11 posted on 06/20/2019 1:21:07 PM PDT by arthurus (:L}])
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To: SeekAndFind
I know of an ENTIRE neighborhood in So. California that is totally BANKROLLED by China, with nearly 100% Chinese residents. $1.5 MILLION homes with expensive cars at every one of them.

DOES ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND TRULY BELIEVE CHINA WOULD ALLOW THEIR WEALTHY CITIZENS TO LEAVE CHINA AND SET UP RESIDENCE IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT GETTING SOMETHING IN RETURN?

WAKE UP, AMERICA.

12 posted on 06/20/2019 1:21:38 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

President Trump...

Get tough on China. For real. For three entire decades, every single person in America has been selling out our country to China.

Everyone.

It is high time, SOMEONE stood up for America.

Be that person. Please.


13 posted on 06/20/2019 1:22:42 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wong way you mean?


14 posted on 06/20/2019 1:24:22 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: arthurus
..and then there's the MATERNITY HOTELS where Chinese women come to the United States and drop their ANCHOR BABIES which then allows them to STAY in the United States.

Also, these freshly minted Chinese American citizens MORE EASILY INFILTRATE our sensitive military and tech industries due to their American citizenship status. YES, THEY ARE ALSO SPIES FOR CHINA!

15 posted on 06/20/2019 1:26:02 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Jim Robinson
“Why should we educate our enemies?”

You are absolutely right Jim. China sends people here specifically because they think it will benefit China - NOT because they want to broaden the cultural exposure and experiences of their citizens. There should be an absolute limit on the amount of STEM and biomedical research funding coming from US taxpayers that can be spent on foreign students/post-docs/doctorates. We should be promoting our own citizens first, at all times.

16 posted on 06/20/2019 1:27:44 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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RE: All Chinese high level techies and professors with family in China are almost all effectively spies.

So, what do you suggest we do to the huge percentage of Chinese students ( which includes Taiwanese and Hongkong students ) who are enrolled in our STEM schools and doing research at our best research labs?

Do we expel and fire them all?


17 posted on 06/20/2019 1:39:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: neverevergiveup

So, what do you suggest we do to the huge percentage of Chinese students ( which includes Taiwanese and Hongkong students ) who are enrolled in our STEM schools and doing research at our best research labs?

Do we expel and fire them all?


18 posted on 06/20/2019 1:40:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: cba123

Wow, I’ve seen some broad brushes applied in my time, but “...every single person in America has been selling out our country to China”?!

You owe me and every member of this forum an apology.


19 posted on 06/20/2019 1:40:15 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: HighSierra5

If there ever was an example of a sympathetic article for espionage,this was it.

Hopefully, NSA or whoever looks at sympathetic articles for espionage, is keeping track of who posts it on the internet and why.


20 posted on 06/20/2019 1:55:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (KAG! Keep America Great! Vote for President Trump in 2020! KAG! Keep America Great!)
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