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Trump’s Phone Calls With Wayne LaPierre Reveal NRA’s Influence
The Atlantic ^ | Aug 20, 2019 | ELAINA PLOTT

Posted on 08/21/2019 8:31:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: elcid1970
Laz! I’ve been scared out of my wits that PDJT would go wobbly on Red Flag!

I was too.

Happy we were wrong.

41 posted on 08/21/2019 10:19:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: momincombatboots; VanDeKoik

To an extent I am with momincombatboots on this one. Bumpstocks are silly, of course. However, the METHOD they were banned is GREATLY troubling.

The BATF was instructed to ignore clear written language — One trigger pull results in one round being fired — in order to declare these devices as machine guns.

Insanity, and furthermore, this sort of behavior WILL be emulated by a future Democrat administration to declare any form of firearm they wish, as a ‘machine gun’.

Now, will I abandon Pres Trump over that? No. It’s bad, very bad, but I will deal.

But there is a point where I could not continue to support him. If he signed on to Red Flag laws or a Universal Background and Registration Act, he’d lose me.

In fact he ought to really chill on any more gun control at all. He’s already beat Obama on the amount of gun control he’s caused and accepted.


42 posted on 08/21/2019 10:25:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Lazamataz

Bears repeating. Donald Trump signed more gun control than Obama.
Is he a trojan horse?


43 posted on 08/21/2019 10:57:08 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks, Laz. You deserve a photo of Catherine Zeta-Jones.

;^)


44 posted on 08/21/2019 11:01:01 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Lazamataz

They defined a piece of plastic to be a machine gun.
As you say, future administrations can define anything, any way they want.
Interestingly they did nothing about binary triggers that serve the same function.


45 posted on 08/21/2019 11:24:43 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Zhang Fei

Gunmakers are in a crappy low margin business and have no profits to spare for the NRA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Truth.
Most of them are barely hanging on, some have been through bankruptcy multiple times.


46 posted on 08/21/2019 11:26:34 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lazamataz
First of all the NRA is a shell of its former self. It is in leadership disarray. What the NRA has is a mailing/call-center/e-mail data base MEGAPHONE that actively communicates with firearms owners and those interested in shooting, hunting, and 2nd Amendment issues. The only power the NRA has is that megaphone. However, that megaphone can change election results.
47 posted on 08/21/2019 11:38:46 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: momincombatboots
Bears repeating. Donald Trump signed more gun control than Obama.

Yup.

Is he a trojan horse?

Hell naw. He made a mistake.

48 posted on 08/21/2019 12:51:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Lazamataz

Planned Parenthood: a tax-funded private organization that supports the un-Constitutional deprivation of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of preborn persons.

National Rifle Association: a donation-funded private organization that supports an actual Constitutional Right.


49 posted on 08/21/2019 2:24:39 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: VanDeKoik

> Shall we all stay home in 2020 over frigging bump stocks?

I’ll still be voting for Trump.
That does not mean I have to agree with everything he says or does.
I am also free to voice an opinion. Just like you.
You are free to ignore any opinion. Just like me.


50 posted on 08/21/2019 3:04:18 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Just kidding.)
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To: Lazamataz

A mistake? So red flag rule proposal another mistake?
Looks more like a gun grabbers fundamental principles in action.


51 posted on 08/21/2019 3:21:09 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: momincombatboots

Whoa, slow down. There was some talk but there appears to have been no action, and it doesn’t look like there will be. If that’s his strategy, I can deal with that.


52 posted on 08/21/2019 4:28:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: Lazamataz

Please. Old Wayne is barely hanging on to his own people, little less influencing Trump. It was a rope-A-Dope to sucker liberals and the media, and it worked.


53 posted on 08/21/2019 6:13:54 PM PDT by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: momincombatboots

So we should all stay home in 2020 because of your advice and allow the dems to pack the Supreme Court and Federal Courts?

Great plan/s


54 posted on 08/21/2019 7:11:13 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

So, are you saying.. go vote for a gun grabber. Have you read any articles about our stupid gop suddenly giddy over red flag rules.
They want to reinstate the assault rifle ban, now.
Trump tore the door off with the bumpstock ban and we are now being manipulated for more gun control.
This is straight from the Palestinian playbook of crying to the world criminal court.
This Republic was founded as decentralized for a reason. They must fear us. Our vote forst, and then our Other means.
Drop the veggiecburger and get some principles.
Losing the right to defend ourselves from these very same folks would nulify completely the supreme court.
We need to send a strong message from the graves of the founders... we will not go quietly into the night, even under a king.


55 posted on 08/22/2019 6:11:25 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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