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The lies and broken promises of green energy and solar power.
1 posted on 09/11/2019 12:53:57 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Nelson ha ha.


2 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:40 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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I have a solar powered water pump for my little hummingbird fountain. Cost $11 and works great.

I also have solar powered blinds. Work great in conjunction with a battery so you can open and close when no sun.


3 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:47 PM PDT by nikos1121
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Arizona it might be helpful if one has the money. But England!!??


4 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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According to a ruling on the Financial Ombudsman Service's website they were told by MyPlanet that the panels would be self-funded and the loan repayments would be more than offset by 'feed-in tariff income', which pays owners for their electricity.

But this did not happen, and the ombudsman ordered Shawbrook to recalculate the repayments so they would be covered by the savings and pay compensation.

5 posted on 09/11/2019 12:57:21 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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I can’t imagine anyone putting those things on their roof unless they were in a location with very very very high amounts of sunlight.

When you see them in Rochester NY which gets 3 sunny days a year, one can only scratch your head.


6 posted on 09/11/2019 12:57:56 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I work in the power industry. My company put up a huge grid where people can purchase “shares” of the grid to offset their power bill. At the end of the day, though, it costs more than if they didn’t do it.

It’s for people that want to augment their power with solar, but instead of installing solar on their own property, they just own a piece of the big solar farm.

My take: The only thing solar is good for and will EVER pay for itself is when the SHTF and you still have power while your neighbors are out of luck. And that is not enough reason to get it.


7 posted on 09/11/2019 12:58:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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Unfortunately, people wont realize the truth until their utilities bill skyrockets and they cannot afford to heat their homes.


8 posted on 09/11/2019 1:00:23 PM PDT by dhs12345
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Another dirty little secret is that the rapid advances in efficiency and cost effectiveness of both wind and solar are coming to an end, as they approach their hard physical limits.

A fundamental physics problem. Theoretical limits.

They have a little further to improve, but the large and easy gains are already behind us.

They will likely never be truly cost competitive for most applications, when you look at lifecycle total cost of ownership, without subsidies.

Great for off the grid applications, like sailboats, or outer space.


9 posted on 09/11/2019 1:04:29 PM PDT by BeauBo
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No surprise here.

I knew this whole solar power movement was a fraud when I started hearing from property owners cutting deals to sell tracts of land in upstate New York to developers looking to build new "solar farms" up there.

The area I'm describing has fewer sunny days in an average year than Seattle and Portland.

11 posted on 09/11/2019 1:05:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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All part of the Green New Deal.


14 posted on 09/11/2019 1:09:42 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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solar to electricity is very inefficient currently. pun absolutely intended.
The best use for solar is south facing triple glazed windows in northern climes and as a pool warmer for the winter in Florida, and by that I mean pumping the pool water and letting it run down a black bottom glazed box to absorb the suns energy directly.


15 posted on 09/11/2019 1:10:06 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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There are hundreds of houses in this area (northern Colorado, where there actually is a lot of sun) with solar panels on the roof. That's fine, I don't think it could hurt.

I remember solar panel companies saying one could generate enough power to have a surplus one could sell to the power company.

Haven't seen that in a while.

16 posted on 09/11/2019 1:10:29 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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Solar panels last about 20 years but degrade over time. They also must be cleaned properly on a regular basis. They are suitable for small single-purpose applications like roadside call boxes, but are horrible as power plants.

Homeowners and taxpayers beware.


18 posted on 09/11/2019 1:14:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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In the ‘Green New Deal’, the only thing that’s ‘green’ is your money.........................


20 posted on 09/11/2019 1:17:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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We had wind power years ago. We had solar (Greenhouses) years ago.

Natural gas works. Hydro works. Nuke works.

Give it up.

21 posted on 09/11/2019 1:17:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Always loved this idiom: a fool and his money are soon parted.


23 posted on 09/11/2019 1:21:14 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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In Texas last month the grid was maxed out because wind power wasn't generating its share.

Of course we keep adding chargeable cars to draw power...

25 posted on 09/11/2019 1:22:19 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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Paging Senator Warren, Senator Elizabeth Warren. Please check your smoke signal mail about your campaign promise to go 100% renewal energy EXCEPT for Nuclear. Too much wampum, too little energy!


34 posted on 09/11/2019 1:31:11 PM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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Solar seems good because we have backup systems that use petroleum products!

Without that you’d see that solar is good for nothing during power failures.


45 posted on 09/11/2019 2:06:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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In Israel we use it to heat hot water for the bath. On cloudy days, you put on an electric switch.

Wind power used to be used for shipping, until the steam engine made it obsolete.

It’s good for what it’s good for. Fossil fuels ended the over-hunting of whales for their blubber.


46 posted on 09/11/2019 2:09:18 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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