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1 posted on 10/26/2019 12:09:08 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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2 posted on 10/26/2019 12:09:29 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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“S.C. Judge: Unconstitutional for Police to Seize Property Without Proving Crimes”

Uh, yeah? No kidding?


3 posted on 10/26/2019 12:12:10 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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bttt


4 posted on 10/26/2019 12:13:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Let’s get this going all the way to SCOTUS.

Right now local & state cops are no better than Mexican cops when it comes to shake-downs.


5 posted on 10/26/2019 12:14:52 PM PDT by sevlex
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I'm not sure that I have a problem with something resembling "civil forfeiture" when there's a criminal conviction connected to the thing being seized.

For example,if large quantities of drugs are being sold out of a particular home and the owner(s) of that home knew about it and did nothing to stop it I can see making loss of that home as being part of a guilty plea or verdict.

But stopping a guy on the highway for a broken tail light and seizing the $5,000 in cash that he's carrying because it *might* be drug related is criminal.

6 posted on 10/26/2019 12:20:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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They’ve enjoyed their gravy train for years. They won’t go down without a fight.

Rotten bastards.


7 posted on 10/26/2019 12:23:13 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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So, our ARs and AKs are safe from beat0?


8 posted on 10/26/2019 12:24:09 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Only the IRS is entitled to take the property of citizens without due process, or even a suspicion of criminal behavior. The only “crime” that need be proven is that the property exists, and the IRS won’t tolerate competition. As onerous as the police seizures are, they don’t compare to the injustices inflicted by the federal government.


11 posted on 10/26/2019 12:28:20 PM PDT by Spok
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Attention red flag law states.


12 posted on 10/26/2019 12:28:40 PM PDT by DPMD
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I’ve no problem with asset foreiture- since our Founders had no problem with it.
In certain circumstances- mostly smuggling.

But the abuse now is rampant.


13 posted on 10/26/2019 12:28:42 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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‘...because the statutes
“(1) place the burden on the property owner to prove their innocence,
(2) unconstitutionally institutionally incentivizes forfeiture officials to prosecute forfeiture actions, and
(3) do not mandate judicial review or judicial authorization prior to or subsequent to the seizure.”

I might argue that the first two could apply to red flag laws.


15 posted on 10/26/2019 12:31:21 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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This was always a BS policy/system paying police depts to steal from citizens. If anything the money should be used for anything BUT law enforcement.

Kind of the same logic about welfare...pay a man not to work they won’t. Pay a police dept to steal from citizens and they will.


16 posted on 10/26/2019 12:40:26 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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Amazing. A judge figured this out...


19 posted on 10/26/2019 12:42:53 PM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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No, absolutely none, asset forfeiture without a conviction in a criminal court.

The so-called War on Drugs has done more damage to our constitutional Liberties over the last 45 years than the Democrats.

Even more disgusting is the fact that it’s been pretty much a bipartisan effort to trash the Bill of Rights.


21 posted on 10/26/2019 12:44:21 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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The police became the modern Highwaymen. It’s amazing it took this long to clean this up. The fact is it has affected how a lot of people see this nation for a long time. At the end of the day, as much as I’d like it 2B, this nation is no Norman Rockwell painting.


22 posted on 10/26/2019 12:53:19 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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I wonder how much of that actually makes it to dept funding as much as lining the pockets of the individual officers.


23 posted on 10/26/2019 12:54:20 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Hi.

Boss Hogg is not pleased.

5.56mm


24 posted on 10/26/2019 12:55:25 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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This is like ruling that the police bashing down your door, abducting your children, and selling them to human traffickers is unconstitutional.

Really?

We’re only getting this ruling now?

Fifty years after this heinous practice became commonplace?

And only in one state?

Even though this heinous practice is followed in all 50 states (57 if you’re a democrat).


26 posted on 10/26/2019 1:10:55 PM PDT by samtheman (Never underestimate The Stupid on the left... or the evil in the heart of a bureaucrat.)
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About time. While I like the overall job performance of my Spartanburg county sheriff, his reliance on forfeiture without conviction had always been troubling.


27 posted on 10/26/2019 1:21:55 PM PDT by buckalfa (TheA best two years of my life were spent in the third grade.)
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This incentivizes police to look for people who have assets that can be seized.

Yep! Same with setting quotas to judge “performance” which creates incentives to ticket “infractions” which cannot be proved by any means other than the say so of the cop writing the citation. Lots of abuse.

29 posted on 10/26/2019 1:26:17 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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