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To: Mount Athos
I'm not sure that I have a problem with something resembling "civil forfeiture" when there's a criminal conviction connected to the thing being seized.

For example,if large quantities of drugs are being sold out of a particular home and the owner(s) of that home knew about it and did nothing to stop it I can see making loss of that home as being part of a guilty plea or verdict.

But stopping a guy on the highway for a broken tail light and seizing the $5,000 in cash that he's carrying because it *might* be drug related is criminal.

6 posted on 10/26/2019 12:20:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Welcome to Sanders/Harris/o’rourke World. And, without a 2nd Amendment, how much worse does anyone think it could get?


14 posted on 10/26/2019 12:30:16 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: Gay State Conservative

Even in the case you say is ok, the police dept should not get the money. Maybe the general fund or something else, but you can’t pay the police to steal. It gives them too much incentive to lie and fabricate evidence to ensure they get their payday.


17 posted on 10/26/2019 12:41:44 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Gay State Conservative

Well gee.
That’s really great of you.

Since nobody else minds it if there is a conviction first either. The whole reason for the conversation at all is because a conviction hasn’t been required for many decades.


18 posted on 10/26/2019 12:42:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Gay State Conservative
“I'm not sure that I have a problem with something resembling “civil forfeiture” when there's a criminal conviction connected to the thing being seized.”

Posted the Freeper in a forum that the left has called to criminalize.......

Why would you want to give any “public servant” the power to take everything away from you? Being Jewish was not a death sentence in Germany in the 1920s and yet by the 1930s the Nazis has begone to perform “civill asset forfeiture” and reducing Jews to poverty.

20 posted on 10/26/2019 12:43:48 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: Gay State Conservative
'm not sure that I have a problem with something resembling "civil forfeiture" when there's a criminal conviction connected to the thing being seized.

It's one thing for the criminal evidence being seized but when it also includes personal properties such as cars and homes, then that has to stop.

Michigan lawmakers vote to limit civil asset forfeiture

Report: Michigan Police Kept $15 Million Taken Mostly From ‘Little Guys’ In 2018

25 posted on 10/26/2019 12:56:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You don’t believe in the presumption of innocence?


34 posted on 10/26/2019 1:50:48 PM PDT by erkelly
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