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Jim Brown Calls Out NFL's Low Pensions
Yahoo Sports ^ | 12/08/2019 | Eric He

Posted on 12/09/2019 9:36:29 AM PST by GLH3IL

"Brown highlighted what he feels are low pensions for older retired players. For those who retired before 1993, the rate is about $2,500 a month for a player who spent seven years in the league. Brown called it “shockingly, immorally, low.”

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eternalchildhood; nfl; pension; peterpansyndrome; retirement; waahmbulance; wages
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1 posted on 12/09/2019 9:36:29 AM PST by GLH3IL
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To: GLH3IL

Is this an Onion piece?


2 posted on 12/09/2019 9:37:35 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: GLH3IL

Did the NFL and players of that time fund a pension plan? Is the pension plan paying promised benefits? Was it set up as a pension or as a 401k type plan?

There are unanswered questions.


3 posted on 12/09/2019 9:40:05 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GLH3IL

They say he was fast, but he doesn’t seem too quick.


4 posted on 12/09/2019 9:41:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: GLH3IL

I like Jim Brown a lot. And he’s correct that forgotten players don’t receive much from the NFL. But he will get zero help from the player’s union since they ONLY care about current players. The owners could easily solve this issue but there’s no reason for them to do so.


5 posted on 12/09/2019 9:41:43 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: GLH3IL

Yo, your “man” Cupcake Kaepernick wasn’t campaigining for pensions.


6 posted on 12/09/2019 9:43:05 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: GLH3IL
For those who retired before 1993, the rate is about $2,500 a month for a player who spent seven years in the league. Brown called it “shockingly, immorally, low.”

Well that is rather low... Lots of considerations here. The average NFL career is less than four years. The Tom Bradys and Drew Brees' with careers approaching 20 years and multimillion dollar annual salaries are the exceptions. The guys on special teams, the third stringers, in short the ones you never hear of, are not making anything near that kind of money and are risking life and limb just as much as anyone else. And way back in 1993, salaries were even less for non-superstars. So yes, maybe the league should do something... since it has grown into a multibillion dollar industry.

7 posted on 12/09/2019 9:43:22 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: GLH3IL

What is even worse is the lack of league health insurance for NFL retirees. The most one gets is 5 years post-retirement.


8 posted on 12/09/2019 9:44:14 AM PST by C19fan
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To: GLH3IL

So, somebody forces all these guys to sign those contracts?


9 posted on 12/09/2019 9:44:20 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: thefactor

JB could have played another 3-5 years and bumped up his pension.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 9:45:44 AM PST by olesigh
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To: treetopsandroofs

Huh?


11 posted on 12/09/2019 9:47:59 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: GLH3IL

Right now I think the rate is about $6,000 per month for every year they play. A player in the league for 5 years gets $30,000 per month in other words. The older players have always gotten screwed.


12 posted on 12/09/2019 9:49:04 AM PST by Stevenc131
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“”””””So, somebody forces all these guys to sign those contracts?””””””””

Didn’t you know they are victims? They are forced to apply, forced to play, forced to sign contracts etc.

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13 posted on 12/09/2019 9:49:27 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: GLH3IL

Why don’t they fund their on pension. They are making millions per year.


14 posted on 12/09/2019 9:49:36 AM PST by setter
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To: GLH3IL

Watch out, Jimmy. You’re approaching “useless eaters” age. (You think your concern is bad?) I hope you’re not a “bitter clinger” too. Hey doc...what’s his social credit score? Yank that plug, puppet.


15 posted on 12/09/2019 9:49:40 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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I'll check the article to see if he gets specific in his complaints, but the basic problem with the NFL pension issue is this:

1. NFL pensions are based on the labor agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA.

2. The NFLPA bylaws allow retirees to remain in the union, but only current players are allowed to vote for the leadership positions and to approve the collective bargaining agreements with the NFL.

3. Many NFL players are among the dumbest people on the planet, and couldn't manage the finances of a sidewalk lemonade stand properly. The notion of preparing for life 40 years from now, or even 40 days from now, is completely alien to them.

Therefore, NFL retirees are basically being screwed by current NFL players.

16 posted on 12/09/2019 9:52:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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There are no guarantees in life, Mr. Brown. Most of us who aren't NFL players have to work three or four decades before we can even consider retirement, and pensions of any kind are a rarity.

Great football players receive large, multi-million dollar contracts, right from the start. Many of them will also have a chance to receive money from advertisers and other promoters. If they're not investing that money (competently, if not smartly) to prepare for a time when they can no longer play, that's their problem.

Moderately good football players also receive million-dollar contracts, though not as much as the great ones. Invested wisely, those salaries will provide a comfortable living; name recognition can also help launch a lucrative second career.

Players who were drafted lower, or who have to spend time on practice squads or as backups to starters--they're still getting contracts that are worth hundreds of thousands per year. Hopefully, they're not being foolish with that money, realizing that their time in pro sports may be limited. They'll most certainly need a second career, but they have a chance to be very comfortable if they invest wisely.

What Mr. Brown should do is ask the owners to fund financial education for their young, and even older players. Teach them how to be athletic superstars, but also, financially-savvy ones as well. Then, they won't have to worry about a paltry $2500/month pension.

17 posted on 12/09/2019 9:53:18 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: thefactor

Agreed


18 posted on 12/09/2019 9:53:59 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: GLH3IL

Two problems.

Inflation is a hidden tax that benefits the government.

Many older fans were attracted to the league due to watching games played by older players. I would say there is a mismatch between reward and work. A better system would pay each individual player a percentage of revenue over a longer period of time with much less upfront. Players who currently receive large contracts but kill the sport would be paid less under such an approach.


19 posted on 12/09/2019 9:54:56 AM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Rummyfan

Be gone with common sense ye!!

It’s in vogue to HATE the NFL and any player or owner past and present on this site :)

As if one watches football to learn how to act in a morally and legally responsible way.

I watch it because probably the most athletic people in the WORLD play the sport at speeds and strength once unimaginable in the league


20 posted on 12/09/2019 9:55:47 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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