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UK General Election Live Thread (December 12, 2019)
New York Times ^ | 12/12/2019 | N/A

Posted on 12/12/2019 2:18:28 AM PST by goldstategop

Live Updates: U.K. Votes in General Election

Britain’s voters head to the polls to choose their next government on Thursday in a deeply divided moment for the country that has left the outcome unpredictable.

RIGHT NOW

Voting has begun in the British general election, the second since the country’s landmark Brexit referendum.

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To: goldstategop

For those interested, C-SPAN 2 is showing the BBC’s election night coverage beginning at 6pm est.


41 posted on 12/12/2019 8:07:47 AM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: goldstategop

Election Night Special
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xm_TRekjno


42 posted on 12/12/2019 8:10:39 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

See also https://www.bbc.com/news/election-2019-50672511


43 posted on 12/12/2019 9:20:44 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: goldstategop

Here is a quick tutorial on British politics the past five years:

We all are comparing Boris Johnson to Donald Trump, but in reality the most influential politician in the World OTHER than Trump is Nigel Farage, who created two of the most successful political parties in the span of three years: UKIP and The Brexit Party.

Farage nearly single-handedly got the original Brexit referendum on the ballot in 2016, parroting the successful populist movement method Donald Trump was engineering in the Republican Party presidential primary. The mainstream media was heavily in favor of Remain (Failure of Brexit), but Leave won by a significantly large margin.

While not totally analogous, the best way to picture Brexit is to imagine (kinda) that the European Union is like a United States that was essentially run by the Democrat Party at virtually all levels, with bureaucrats making laws instead of through Congress, and ONLY allows governments of states to have elections for their own governance outside of the federal bureaucracy.

Further, let’s say a state, say, Texas was tired of this crap, and businessman turned populist movement leader Miguel Garage decided to create a movement for Texas to leave the United States. Call it “Texit.” Now Texas votes to leave the United States in a referendum of its citizens. But Texas state representatives drag the issue for years, culminating in a loss of confidence for the Texas state representatives.

So Miguel Garage forces the Texas governor, Doris Bronson, to call a state election. If the conservatives dominate, then Texit will allow to happen, while if it fails, the socialists will kill Texit in its tracks.

This is the best way to visualize Brexit. And to that end, the best way to explain the main focus on why the election was called. Nigel Farage essentially single-handedly engineered this whole process. (In the European elections, Farage’s Brexit Party won the most seats than any of the other dozens of political parties, every member advocating that Britain leaves the chamber they were voted for.)

Anyway, a free Britain will be a much stronger Britain, and don’t think that member states of the rest of the Deep State European Union (no difference) will recognize this.


44 posted on 12/12/2019 9:49:23 AM PST by GOP Congress
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To: goldstategop

bump


45 posted on 12/12/2019 10:15:28 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Is Labour still using the red rose?


46 posted on 12/12/2019 10:24:15 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: mewzilla
Yes.


47 posted on 12/12/2019 11:38:57 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: goldstategop

The NY Times says it’s unpredictable, outcome in doubt. If they say it it must be true./s


48 posted on 12/12/2019 11:57:04 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Same people who never saw Jimmy Carter being tossed, were blindsided by Brexit and ridiculed the notion of Trump being elected President.


49 posted on 12/12/2019 12:12:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Good gad.


50 posted on 12/12/2019 12:13:42 PM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I would be careful. We are in the same position the Dems and their Fake News toadies were in 2016. They believed the polls then and got the shock of their lives

The WW-2 generation has mostly died. This is an electorate made up of people who lived their whole life under socialism. There been a lot of social media posting about the “conservatives want to take healthcare away from children and push old people off cliffs” type propaganda being posted on places like Facebook.

Very high turn out means all the polling models were way off so it now uncharted territory.

Who showing up? People who want to keep their freebies going or people pissed off that they still are hearing about Brexit years after voting to exit?

We will not know until tonight and I do not feel good about this one at all.

If I am wrong and the Tories win big, I will happily eat all the crow you wish to serve me.


51 posted on 12/12/2019 12:48:11 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

Polls in the UK are set to close within the hour. Within 30-45 minutes we should have the first riding returns come in.

There are two possible projections: a majority Conservative government or a minority Conservative government.

The votes in the Midlands bellwethers will never inform us about the outcome tonight.


52 posted on 12/12/2019 1:01:15 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

LOL. Meant inform us!


53 posted on 12/12/2019 1:01:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MNJohnnie

You are right.

Most “populist” elections in Europe were against the migrants so the natives can preserve their social benefits....not to turn more toward capitalism and individual liberty.


54 posted on 12/12/2019 1:05:18 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: MNJohnnie

Tories need to get around 40% to get a majority government.

Theresa May screwed the pooch and fell short. Boris Johnson needs to exceed that tonight.

Brexit is dead with another hung Parliament.


55 posted on 12/12/2019 1:06:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I take it that by about 7-8 p.m. eastern tonight we should know how the election has turned out? Hoping for the Tories!


56 posted on 12/12/2019 1:10:53 PM PST by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

If its neck and neck we may not know the winner til morning. 50 minutes to go...


57 posted on 12/12/2019 1:13:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Another caution. 1918 to 1928 was the height of the Suffergate movement in the UK. There was a lot of propaganda for women to get out and vote to “honor the battle they fought”

Female turn out will be very high which tender to run Left due to the “oh we are nice we give people things they need” siren song of the Socialist


58 posted on 12/12/2019 1:19:38 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

In 2015, it was down to the wire. If its the same with the last batch of polls, there will be no Brexit.

I’m not surprised at the high turnout. This is most fateful election in British history. Every one seems to have an opinion.

We’ll find out soon whether or not the voters have buyers’ remorse about the 2015 referendum.


59 posted on 12/12/2019 1:22:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Lord Buckethead is back, and this time he brought Count Binface with him. Google it, lol.


60 posted on 12/12/2019 1:24:23 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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