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Trump retweets, deletes post naming alleged whistleblower
The Associated Press ^ | 12/28/2019 | DARLENE SUPERVILLE and DAVID KLEPPER

Posted on 12/28/2019 6:48:26 PM PST by mdittmar

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To: CMailBag

It’s not the law itself, but Schiff’s illegal and false redefinition of same.


61 posted on 12/28/2019 10:13:05 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JoSixChip

If you thought the Kavanaugh nomination hearing was fun just imagine what the Dems would do with a trial before the full senate.


62 posted on 12/28/2019 10:14:41 PM PST by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

That is correct. He blew the whistle on nothing, he piped up over second-hand “information”, and the only thing he’s done is become the inspiration of thousands of lies out of the mouths, pens and keyboards of the left-wing media and Democratic Party politicians.


63 posted on 12/28/2019 10:15:02 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: TigersEye

I doubt Trump’s lawyers in a senate hearing would be the cowards the gopE was during the Kavanaugh nomination hearing. Imagine, to this day, no one has been held accountable for the BS the dems pulled in that hearing. It’s about time a price is paid and I think exposure of corruption will be a bit painful for all, but most especially for the corrupt.


64 posted on 12/28/2019 10:28:46 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: aquila48
The AssPress doesn’t say what the deleted tweet said.

It's not deleted, it's still on Trumps twitter feed. See post 57.
65 posted on 12/28/2019 10:31:12 PM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: semimojo
The problem with your theory is the whistleblower didn't use the new form.

He used the old form and more to the point stated that he did have first hand knowledge, so your entire rant is moot.

It’s not a "theory" but facts, as much as you want to make it a theory. The form he used was the previous from, I know that, but they want plausible deniability to be saying the new regulations were already in place but the new form wasn’t ready yet, when they realized the old Form-401 and regulations prohibited second and third-hand hearsay as a basis for instigating an ICIG action. It stands to reason the ICIG would not want to be in the position of chasing unsubstantiated Office rumors, so such reports are summarily prohibited if not supported by first-hand knowledge. Otherwise the ICIG would be flooded by rumor mongers reporting coworkers out of spite.

It is also a known fact that ICIG dated his letter to the chairs of the House and Senate oversight Committees, complaining of how this whistleblower complaint was handled by the DNI and DOJ, on the same day the he first received the complaint, two weeks before he ever submitted the matter to his superior, his new, as yet to be appointed boss—the two weeks he was supposed by statute to be investigating the complaint—who was the new DNI who would take office three days later, and would, after receiving the ICIG’s report, by statute have seven days to review it and make a decision about whether it was an "intelligence community urgent matter" required to be brought to the committees’ attention or not.

Instead, we know ICIG Atkinson wrote and signed his complaint letter about the political handling of the Whistleblower’s complaint despite the written advice from: his own IC legal counsel; his boss’s—the DNI—decision, based on the DNI’s legal counsel’s legal determination; and the further determination of DOJ’s legal counsel staff’s ruling, all concluding that the President was not a member of the Intelligence Community, was therefore not under the statute in question, and was therefore not under ICIG Atkinson’s legal jurisdiction, was in fact explicitly excluded by definition in the statute from such jurisdiction, and it was therefore not an "intelligence community urgent matter," requiring the attention of the Intelligence Oversight committees. But, Atkinson had predetermined his course of action, or rather it had already been scripted for him, given the date on his letter to Chairman Schiff and his Senate counterpart. . . and Atkinson reported it anyway, because that was the role puppet Atkinson was to play in sloppy playwright Schiff’s pre-written script, a script with so many holes in the plot they had to make last minute ad hoc cutting room edits, ala new regulations and new Form.

66 posted on 12/28/2019 10:50:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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Lying asshat.

Trump didn’t delete his tweet.

Twitter did, because they are fascists...


67 posted on 12/28/2019 11:17:28 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: semimojo
He used the old form and more to the point stated that he did have first hand knowledge, so your entire rant is moot.

I’ve read every word of the legal filing of the whistleblower. He did not provide ANY firsthand knowledge in a single statement in it. He could b]not because he was never there. He wrote, or his attorneys wrote, that he spoke to others who heard of others who heard. . . Etc. he had one unnamed source (Lt.Col. Vindland?) who related the call, which was completely inaccurate in the description given, to him, initiating his horror. But the only "first hand" knowledge he related was of his actions in doing research of second hand information. Nothing beyond that. Yes, he checked the box on Form 401 claiming he had "standing" to file the complaint, but everything on the actual complaint pages denied that. He perjured himself on Form-401 by checking that box. He had no first hand knowledge of what he was filing from his office in the CIA office. He was literally not present to have first hand knowledge.

Get it through your head that ICIG Atkinson is dirty too! Who do you think conspired to slip in new regulations without holding the legally hearings and public comment time, and submitting the Form -401 alteration without submitting it to mandatory Federal paperwork reviews and justification or editing, or even requesting a revision date and number?

The date on it is not even in the regulation Federal format! It duplicates the first page color header on all subsequent pages, a huge no-no on Federal forms. It has no page numbers on any pages, another huge no-no on any Federal form that will require citing in legal documents. The real Form-401 has a page number at the top of each page, I.e., ICIG—Form-401, page 2 of 4. The new form? Nada. Nothing, nope, no page numbers, no form number. The even changed the name of the form, so finding it based on the name of the old form won’t work. Legally citing the new form would be a nightmare; it would have to be referred to by its full five word name.

It’s an amateur fake created on the spur of the ad hoc moment by someone unfamiliar with US Government Form requirements, doing things that would not survive the standard form creation process in any bureaucracy. I’ve struggled to get things through enough bureaucracies to know. Think of the amateurishness of Obama’s long-form Birth Certificate, and you’d be close.

68 posted on 12/28/2019 11:26:18 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

FakeNewsAustralia picked up WaPo’s version:

29 Dec: Sydney Morning Herald: Trump shares - then deletes - post naming the alleged whistleblower
By Colby Itkowitz, Washington Post
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-shares-then-deletes-post-naming-the-alleged-whistleblower-20191229-p53ne2.html

28 Dec: Gateway Pundit: Twitter Says “Glitch” Caused President Trump’s Retweet of CIA Whistleblower to “Appear Deleted” — Funny How those “Glitches” Only Affect Trump and His Supporters?
by Jim Hoft
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/twitter-says-glitch-caused-president-trumps-retweet-of-cia-whistleblower-to-appear-deleted-funny-how-those-glitches-only-affect-trump-and-his-supporters/


69 posted on 12/28/2019 11:31:35 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: mdittmar

Trump did not delete anything. Twitter has admitted some tweets were removed due to a “glitch”.


70 posted on 12/29/2019 1:37:50 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: Olog-hai; mdittmar; CMailBag

71 posted on 12/29/2019 4:20:36 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Swordmaker
I created this blacked-out version of my face chart for posting on Facebook and Twitter.

Depending on how their SJW censors feel on a given day, they might give you a ban for posting the name Eric Ciaramella.


72 posted on 12/29/2019 4:26:57 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mdittmar

Turns out it wasn’t deleted - per twitter, it “appeared to be deleted due to some ‘glitch’”...


73 posted on 12/29/2019 4:29:42 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: piasa
Good to know all those Ozark hillbilly sassafrass diggers are involved in fair trade.

One told me so at a Ryman concert.

Actually, did you really think the guy would buy American? It had to be from Algeria, processed by the Chinese. That makes it "fair."

74 posted on 12/29/2019 7:30:46 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: JoSixChip
But I can see several lily livered senators being "very disturbed" by it.

First Murkowski is "disturbed." Then the Dem Senators as they oh so patriotically protect the Constitution from Trump./s

As a Dragnet episode with a crazed guy on the building ledge looking down. "His doctor was contacted. Said he's disturbed and he may go through with it."

75 posted on 12/29/2019 7:37:31 AM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Travis McGee

Love it, Travis. . .


76 posted on 12/29/2019 8:09:28 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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To: mdittmar

Unmasking the whistleblower, who works in the intelligence field, could violate federal protection laws that have historically been supported by both parties.


He was an Biden staffer. Fake News Lying by omission, again. Typical leftists. If only the GOP had control of the Senate and could support a GOP POTUS against this CIA backed coup.


77 posted on 12/29/2019 8:12:37 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Swordmaker
... they want plausible deniability to be saying the new regulations were already in place but the new form wasn’t ready yet, when they realized the old Form-401 and regulations prohibited second and third-hand hearsay as a basis for instigating an ICIG action.

This doesn't make any sense.

The whistleblower stated that he had direct knowledge so it doesn't matter whether they used the old or new regulations.

You say the WB didn't have direct knowledge, but :

"As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct..."

It is also a known fact that ICIG dated his letter to the chairs of the House and Senate oversight Committees, complaining of how this whistleblower complaint was handled by the DNI and DOJ, on the same day the he first received the complaint

How is this known? The WB complaint went to the Office of the ICIG on August 12th. The first letter to Schiff & Nunes was dated September 9th.

Your arguments about the various legal opinions from the DNI and DOJ might matter if the ICIG had not heeded them and instead forwarded the complaint to Congress, but he didn't.

Despite being given the authority to determine urgency he deferred to the Administration's wishes and didn't transmit the complaint, so again your point is moot.

78 posted on 12/29/2019 8:12:57 AM PST by semimojo
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To: TigersEye

If you thought the Kavanaugh nomination hearing was fun just imagine what the Dems would do with a trial before the full senate.


If you think the GOP Senate doing nothing here ends anything you are sadly mistaken. We must have a full trial and the bright lights of beltway theater shining a light on the cockroach coupists. If not now that will never happen. It’s that simple.


79 posted on 12/29/2019 8:15:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: aquila48
So Trump tweets the name Ciaramella but makes no claim that he’s the whistleblower. But the AssPress refuses to print Trump’s tweet because it contains the name of the whistleblower, which theoretically nobody knows. So by not printing Trump’s tweet isn’t the AP admitting and thus outing Ciaramella as the whistleblower?

Your logic is impeccable. Their idiocy is impeccable, too. Like bookends.

80 posted on 12/29/2019 8:16:36 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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