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FISA Court Selecting Surveillance State Advocate, David Kris, Shouldn’t Be a Surprise…
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | 1/13/20 | sundance

Posted on 01/13/2020 3:25:20 AM PST by a little elbow grease

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To: HighSierra5

“FISC and judges were in on the co-conspiracy to take Trump out. They had to be”.

I strongly agree and have maintained the same - from the beginning. If we can figure this out quickly from day one, why is this allowed to drag on and on?

We cannot trust Justice Roberts, that is for sure.


21 posted on 01/13/2020 5:47:39 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: a little elbow grease

What’s next, Jim Comey coming back to oversee policy changes in the FBI?


22 posted on 01/13/2020 6:24:38 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: a little elbow grease

How do you beat this folks,it’s all rigged,nice and lega! To spy on your opponents


23 posted on 01/13/2020 7:06:17 AM PST by ballplayer (By)
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To: ballplayer; All
"How do you beat this folks, it’s all rigged, nice and lega! to spy on your opponents"

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Good question.

I'm 73 and not feeling so well. For a while now I thought I might get lucky and live long enough to see this swamp drained by the great, tireless efforts of Donald J. Trump.

He has done more than anyone could have expected. But it is beginning to look like D.C. is going to be an eternal foul sewer loaded with mostly wicked, very damaged amoral human beings.

Life can be a little depressing, but then there are ......

.... to cheer us up.

24 posted on 01/13/2020 12:47:15 PM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: JonPreston
"IMO, at least 90% will vote for re-authorization. Can anyone name a government program, that once created, has been eliminated?"

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I swear that I searched Google for well over ten minutes and could not find one major government program that was ended.

I did however find this absurd summation of the problem:

"Abstract

The problem of how to terminate outdated or ineffective policies, programs or organizations is increasingly important.

But the termination of public organizations, policies and programs has usually been neglected by policy researchers. This paper is intended to explore why the ending of policy is so tough that few case is reported in practice. The main reasons for the longevity of government organizations and policies are as follows: intellectual reluctance, institutional permanence, antitermination coalition, legal obstacle, high start-up costs, pressure from public opinion, influence of interest groups, incrementalism at work, dynamic conservatism and so on. In the second part, some general strategies for making the termination option more available are suggested."

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Gobblelegook ....... LOL!

25 posted on 01/13/2020 1:02:32 PM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: ballplayer; Cboldt
How do you beat this folks,it’s all rigged,nice and lega! To spy on your opponents

If you take down the FISA court, do you think the DS will stop spying on us?

26 posted on 01/14/2020 12:03:51 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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-- If you take down the FISA court, do you think the DS will stop spying on us? --

Nope. But it's crazy to spend millions of dollars to create a fiction/pretend that they are respecting privacy.

Snooping will continue to the extent technology and practical considerations allow. Consider that the so-called "abuse" is looking at data that has already been collected. The rationale is that if they collect it, but don't look at it, it isn't snooping.

FISA exists mostly to BE a sham. It never was a serious "snoop control" system. It was a narrative control, public perception control effort. Even now we have congresspeople all huffy about protecting privacy, and "if they can do this to carter Page" nonsense. Well, they can, and the law was never and never will be a deterrent. It's naive to think laws control lawless people.

And the government has long demonstrated, by its actions, contempt for our "federal government has limited powers" constitution.

27 posted on 01/14/2020 5:24:21 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Well said.


28 posted on 01/14/2020 5:28:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: a little elbow grease
More than half the battle is waking the public up to the fact that government is a necessary EVIL. It is not inherently "good," as the government would have you think. It is dishonest, duplicitous, heartless, and often wromg. It is lazy and incompetenet, and should be kept small as possible for many reasons.

This "checks and balances" thing is useless when all three branches are aligned in self-serving. Sure, they battle each other for power - power over the public.

Never lose sight that the courts are hostile to the right to keep and bear arms. That tells you all you need to know about how the ENTIRE government views the public. Us vs. them baby.

29 posted on 01/14/2020 5:33:25 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lopeover

B I N G O, B O N G O, B A N G O. We knew the Patriot act was so named because it didn’t have anything to do with Patriotism, and now the proof just keeps on keeping on.

Anyone have any trust whatsoever in the FBI, or any other Federal law enforcement agency?

I didn’t think so.


30 posted on 01/14/2020 5:54:46 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: a little elbow grease

Agreed,I’m 70 feel pretty much the same,my grandchildren I’m afraid are going to see some nasty happenings


31 posted on 01/14/2020 6:19:02 AM PST by ballplayer (By)
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To: Cboldt; ClearCase_guy

I agree. Even if Nunes forces the FISA court to appoint an “Advocate” who is not a leftist fanatic, what real power would that person/office have?


32 posted on 01/14/2020 7:55:39 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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To: ManHunter; Cboldt

Maybe FISC will replace Kris with Sally Yates.


33 posted on 01/14/2020 8:50:07 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe.)
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