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‘Bond King’ Gundlach says Fed panicked and short-term rates are ‘headed toward zero’
CNBC ^ | March 5, 2020 | Thomas Franck

Posted on 03/05/2020 11:13:17 AM PST by Leaning Right

“Bond King” and DoubleLine Capital CEO Jeffrey Gundlach said Thursday that he believes the Federal Reserve panicked in cutting interest rates earlier this week and that short-term U.S. rates are headed for zero.

“If we look at history, once the Fed does a panic, inter-meeting rate cut, particularly when it’s 50 basis points ... they typically cut pretty quickly again,” Gundlach said. “I’m in the camp that the Fed is going to cut rates again, perhaps even in two weeks” during its regularly scheduled meeting.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bonds; doublelinecapital; election2016; jeffreygundlach
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Good news if you’re financing a new car or buying a house. Not so good news if you’re a senior planning on buying a CD for income.
1 posted on 03/05/2020 11:13:17 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

So buy a treasury (or corporate) bond instead before the rate cut. A cut in interest rates means an increase in bond price, so you’d make a profit on the price increase of your bond:


2 posted on 03/05/2020 11:17:19 AM PST by stremba
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To: Leaning Right

CNBC is not trustworthy they been pushing for a market collapse since the start of this . Fox Business channel is much better


3 posted on 03/05/2020 11:17:49 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: stremba

> So buy a treasury (or corporate) bond instead before the rate cut. <

The big question is whether or not the next rate cut has already been priced into bonds. Knowing that is above my pay grade.


4 posted on 03/05/2020 11:19:39 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: gibsonguy

> CNBC is not trustworthy they been pushing for a market collapse since the start of this. <

CNBC is reporting a possible interest rate cut. An interest rate cut is usually a good thing for the stock market. Bonds become less attractive and stocks become more attractive.

But with the coronavirus thing afoot, conventional wisdom might mean nothing.


5 posted on 03/05/2020 11:23:49 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

Responsible interest rate cuts can be good for the economy. But we’ve gone to that well too many times. Does anybody remember Japan in the 90’s? If we keep rates this low, we won’t have anything when we really need it.


6 posted on 03/05/2020 11:30:31 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Leaning Right
Good news if you’re financing a new car or buying a house. Not so good news if you’re a senior planning on buying a CD for income.

Seniors are only able to invest in CD"s??

7 posted on 03/05/2020 11:31:36 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Leaning Right

start loaning out money... over pay your credit cards, they would pay great interest.


8 posted on 03/05/2020 11:33:40 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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"Good news if you’re financing a new car or buying a house."

Also good if your a government that has to borrow a trillion dollars a year just to cover operating costs. Although, it just kicks the can down a road a bit farther allowing the current managers to be long gone when the inevitable finally happens.

9 posted on 03/05/2020 11:34:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: nickcarraway

I agree with you 100%. And I suspect that one force behind these rate cuts is the government’s desire to borrow even more money.

If the Fed rate returned to say 6%, government debt would be even worse than it is now.


10 posted on 03/05/2020 11:38:29 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Smart Treasury officials would issue most debt in 50,75 and 100 bonds. Heavy on the 100s. They claim there’s no demand. Bull hockey.


11 posted on 03/05/2020 11:38:43 AM PST by drdirt333
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To: stremba

Treasury bond (10 years maturity) is paying less than 1%.
Just buy it and hold it and watch losing buying power to inflation. /S


12 posted on 03/05/2020 11:39:47 AM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to interfere with corporate issues.)
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To: Leaning Right

I almost forgot what a CD is. IMO under the mattress is better than a CD and has been for a long time.


13 posted on 03/05/2020 11:41:16 AM PST by WinMod70
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> Seniors are only able to invest in CD”s?? <

That’s the thing. These extraordinary low interest rates are forcing seniors into riskier investments (seeing as almost everything else is riskier than a CD). Maybe that will turn out OK. But maybe it won’t.


14 posted on 03/05/2020 11:42:13 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: entropy12

People are buying the 10 yr to preserve their principal, not to make a gain...or minor inflation loss.

They are somewhat liquid as there is a robust market for them.

But cash is still king.

Much of the market selling has gone into cash. And it will continue to gain in popularity.


15 posted on 03/05/2020 11:46:58 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Leaning Right; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...

The rate cut made no sense, and was probably done for political reasons.

Mad Maxine and the reprehensible Al Green are on the attack on Wells-Fargo as well.


16 posted on 03/05/2020 11:50:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Leaning Right

What to heck is a “Bond-King”?????


17 posted on 03/05/2020 12:13:09 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be a liberal when one is dumber than a box of rocks...)
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To: Mariner

I only wish inflation loss was minor for seniors. Grocery & healthcare costs are rocketing up 4 times faster than gov’t CPI. Even Housing & rents are inflating fast. My daughter’s rental in Seattle increased 10% over last year.


18 posted on 03/05/2020 12:17:22 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to interfere with corporate issues.)
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To: Mariner

When a stock is sold, the buyer puts out cash, so net change in cash is small.


19 posted on 03/05/2020 12:18:47 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to interfere with corporate issues.)
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To: Leaning Right
Good news if you’re financing a new car or buying a house.

Not true for houses. When interest rates are artificially lower than true inflation, money flows to hard assets such as stocks and real-estate causing bubble prices. So you are buying an inflated priced house. That is what what happened before housing collapse in 2010-11. Also, lower rates make more people eligible for loans and brings in more buyers and that causes more price increases.

20 posted on 03/05/2020 12:24:44 PM PST by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to interfere with corporate issues.)
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