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A return to some normalcy amid coronavirus outbreak could be June or July, Murphy says
NJ.com ^ | 4/14/2020 | Matt Arco

Posted on 04/14/2020 7:25:25 PM PDT by usafa92

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To: caww

Not here. Governor Murphy has canned all “elective” surgeries. Unless you are about to die, no surgery.

But why be upset? I mean, it’s best to kill people rather than allow them to die from the virus.

End this now!! I’d rather take my chances than allow my fear or others fear to kill everyone.


41 posted on 04/14/2020 9:02:34 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

I find that hard to believe because the Govenor doesn’t decide what is elective or not.....the Dr’s do who are treating the patient decide and that’s between the patient and the Dr.

Family member with cancer continued her treatment. Another family member who had injured their arm needed checkup was rescheduled. The Dr. decides.


42 posted on 04/14/2020 9:09:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I live in CT. Dear Leader Lamont is the same way, no ideas of his own, just runs to Cuomo.


43 posted on 04/14/2020 9:10:33 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
Cuomo thinks he's the self-appinted Czar of the East Coast and his state the Capital of the USA. Unfortunately some of his neighboring state Governors are cowards and so lame-brained they will gladly scurry under his wing.....
44 posted on 04/14/2020 9:19:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I will tell my wife’s mom who is waiting for a stent that she has nothing to worry about because somebody who doesn’t live In my State has a hard time believing she can’t get said stent. But I’m sure if she has a heart attack or reaches emergency status he’ll be just fine, unless she dies before he can get the procedure in which case she won’t. I mean, thst never happens. But the By Russ, that is just horrible so she will be happy to die rather than to die.

I’m living it right now. Elective isn’t decided by our doctors currently. Her cardiologist told us that guy have to have one foot in the grave to get surgery or a procedure. The surgery centers are severely severely limited.

But you know. Sometimes we just have to die so that we don’t die.

This is nonsense in this state. But my mother in law can always go for a walk in the Park while contemplating the hereafter. Oh, wait.


45 posted on 04/14/2020 9:24:50 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: usafa92

I think it all hinges on the number of businesses that fail and people that become unemployed. Not every problem attributed to the shutdown can be solved nor even postponed by printing money and sending out checks.

The longer we go on in lockdown, the more business we’ll see fail. Even the ones that can open will be behind a curve that may not be recovered from. For example: suppose restaurants, bars, and theaters can open, but only to half capacity while observing distancing?

They’ll have to raise prices to compensate, which will make going to such places prohibitively expensive. How many and for how long can businesses survive serving only half or so of their customers because of social distancing measures?

I think if we delay reopening the economy—and at the roll under restrictions I keep reading about—we still risk the economic recovery and the livelihood of millions.


46 posted on 04/14/2020 9:59:41 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: usafa92

The governor of New Jersey is complete and utter dip shit


47 posted on 04/14/2020 10:36:01 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: BenLurkin
The Curve has been flattened. Mission accomplished. Time to sound the All Clear.

No, because if what we've been through this last month or so is what it took to flatten the curve, then sounding the all clear will cause an explosion of the virus and we'll be back to square one.

Certain area absolutely need to be opened up with precautions, while other areas don't have that luxury.

48 posted on 04/15/2020 12:24:48 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: FlipWilson

I keep hearing about healthcare workers being furloughed because of lack of work in some areas because the virus has not hit them as hard as expected.

That is ridiculous.

This is the perfect time, then, to start on some of those needed surgeries and then move on to more elective ones as time and space permit.


49 posted on 04/15/2020 12:28:00 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: lightman

Noooooooooooooo, not that Murphy-NJ bastard! Between him, Cuomo-The-Homo, and Wolf, we’re screwed.


50 posted on 04/15/2020 4:48:44 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: usafa92

These authoritarian dictators are going to have big problems on their hands when everyone else is working and they are not


51 posted on 04/15/2020 4:59:55 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: FlipWilson

Well I’d be taking her to another facility if she’s in that much danger,even another state if you have to.


52 posted on 04/15/2020 5:09:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Wolf will no sign any bill passed by the Republican majority in both houses. He’s given himself sole power over the fate of our state.


53 posted on 04/15/2020 5:12:00 AM PDT by Russ (I)
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To: caww

We are working on the other state option. She has more moola than she knows what to do with. Tried talking her into moving out of here for years. Now, suddenly she sees the wisdom in it. No time better than when it’s too late.


54 posted on 04/15/2020 5:19:41 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Russ

I think that bill has some dem support, maybe enough to override it.

At any rate, let the Dems defend what has become increasingly unpopular.


55 posted on 04/15/2020 5:20:50 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: DesertRhino

Apparently they are the big US source for Lysol, so they play a big part in the CCP virus economy!


56 posted on 04/15/2020 5:33:24 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The dam breaks May 1.

Pass it on.
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I appreciate the sentiment although don’t get your hopes up that this will be
over in a few months. This will linger around for a very long time. Just because a business is open doesn’t mean they will have customers. Planes , hotels, restaurants and any type of larger gathering or movement of people will be reduced to a bare minimum for the next 12-18 months.


57 posted on 04/15/2020 5:34:09 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy

I meant mass civil disobedience of the false imprisonment edicts.


58 posted on 04/15/2020 6:41:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes. Once one state goes, the other states are going to be under enormous pressure to do the same.

No way that idiot Murphy can keep the state locked down until July.


59 posted on 04/15/2020 7:38:41 AM PDT by Conserv
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To: allendale

Yes, I was kidding. I should have included the sarcasm tag.

I hope they do come up with a vaccine, but I think it is national economic suicide to put all our eggs in that basket and to think we can afford to wait until there is one. I hold the lack of an AIDs vaccine as a cautionary tale.

I think the war analogy is apt for this relentless enemy that can’t be negotiated with. General Patton was an advocate of ferocious attack and terrible casualties in the early going. He knew that routing an enemy and continuing with relentless attack would ultimately result in fewer American casualties over the long run.

We have instead decided to take the McClellan approach (Civil War commander who couldn’t stomach the casualties of ferocious battles) and I believe we will ultimately end up with more dead and more devastating economic damage than if we took the Swedish approach.


60 posted on 04/15/2020 9:46:22 AM PDT by PTBAA
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