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Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire
townhall.com ^ | 7/5/2020 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 07/05/2020 8:02:49 AM PDT by rktman

A Tulsa police sergeant died Tuesday after being shot multiple times during a traffic stop.

Sgt. Craig Johnson, 45, came to provide backup assistance to another officer who pulled over David Anthony Ware, 33, for an expired paper license. The suspect would not get out of the vehicle when officers said it would have to be towed, and that's when things escalated.

Despite Johnson trying to use nonlethal force—the suspect pulled a gun on him and another officer.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bidensfault; obamasfault; police; rip; tulsa
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“ He was killed by drugs just as sure as if he had been injected.”

He was no more killed by drugs than he was killed by the gun.

It’s amazing that Freepers who insist that “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” will turn around and say that “drugs kill”.

Drugs don’t kill people, people kill people. In this case drug users kill themselves or drug users kill others. Either way the drihs didn’t do the killing.


21 posted on 07/05/2020 9:18:51 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: norcal joe

“So...they should have shot Ware right off the bat?’

Officers are trained to escalate force as needed. When he pulled the taser barbs out, weapons should have been pointed with the order let me see your hands. When he reached for the weapon, lethal force would have been justified. Many officers are now hesitating due to social pressure and this is a result.

Your statement is out of line.


22 posted on 07/05/2020 9:23:13 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: Grampa Dave

OBAMA (Only Black Anarchists Matter Anymore)


23 posted on 07/05/2020 9:31:31 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Well put-


24 posted on 07/05/2020 9:33:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: rktman

Along with the entire DemoncRat Party, GOP Senator Mike Braun was unavailable for comment.


25 posted on 07/05/2020 9:34:23 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

it is going to get to the point where the job of police officer is sitting in a police building only, and waiting for perps to voluntarily turn themselves in whenever crimes are committed- Cops aren’t going to want to risk going out on street and attempting to arrest anyone anymore because like you said it could easily end in death of the officer, or 30 year sentence for officer since liberals have ruined what the police force even stands for any more- law and order- - -

This assault on our nation’s police force is Satanic in nature- ushering in an age of anarchy for criminals, and of complete compliance to asinine liberal laws by law abiding citizens, or else-


26 posted on 07/05/2020 9:41:37 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: DoodleDawg

But they should have already drawn weapons and ready to fire at the point when he violently resisted exiting the vehicle and as his hand disappeared from sight then open fire.


27 posted on 07/05/2020 9:45:39 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: DoodleDawg

[So...they should have shot Ware right off the bat? ]


Once video confirmed the events at hand, Ware should have been strung up from the nearest tree, and his body left to decompose and be devoured by vultures and other avian scavengers as a clear warning to all others who might follow in his footsteps.


28 posted on 07/05/2020 9:49:57 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: adorno

Hey lets protest this issue.....killing cops is wrong....cops lives matter not protesters.


29 posted on 07/05/2020 10:03:42 AM PDT by mastertex
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To: mastertex

I vote for the cops.....


30 posted on 07/05/2020 10:05:08 AM PDT by mastertex
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To: rktman
Tulsa is in the toilet thanks to libertarians and the creeps moving here from sewers like kalifornia and ny. Old men with gray pony tails and their skank wives in tie dyed skirts. Legalized marijuana and immediately we've got addicts in the streets. Plus we've got more fags than humans.

Tulsa is a blue city in a red state. And that's how it begins.

31 posted on 07/05/2020 10:06:32 AM PDT by LouAvul (Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Psalms 9:20)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Nomsense, drugs are the fuel, guns are but a tool. Guns never made anyone a crazed killer.


32 posted on 07/05/2020 10:08:51 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Nope, can’t agree, these drugs are put here by people wanting this to happen.


33 posted on 07/05/2020 10:10:36 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: G Larry
With 2 officers, one of them should have had his gun drawn.

If I'm reading the story right they were not aware that the suspect was armed until he pulled the gun so it makes sense that they would try non-lethal force first. I don't know enough about police work to know if a mistake was made on either officer's part but it sounds like he followed procedure. Criticizing him for using non-lethal measure first doesn't seem to be called for.

34 posted on 07/05/2020 10:23:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Of course they didn't know he was armed.

Which is why, with 2 of them there, they should have been prepared to escalate with the first officer using non-lethal force.

35 posted on 07/05/2020 10:40:57 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

We refer to “drug use” and especially “illegal drug use”. The object of use is tool. The drug does not make the user crazy. The user makes himself crazy by using the drug. A drug lies in an inert state just like a bullet. Both of them require user activation to perform their jobs. Neither of them are capable of doing anything on their own.


36 posted on 07/05/2020 10:40:59 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: DoodleDawg

After backup arrives, and not until then, the officer should give a clear warning that “Due to the frequent shooting of police officers in traffic stops deadly force may result from any misbehavior by the suspect”. He should only try to physically approach or handle the suspect when his backup is zeroed in on the target.

If the suspect is cooperative and the violation is minor, the officer should offer an apology and explanation that since many officers have been shot, policy dictates that they must proceed with great caution.


37 posted on 07/05/2020 10:58:14 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Bob434

OBAMA (Only Black Anarchists Matter Anymore)

Thanks.


38 posted on 07/05/2020 11:16:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Preserve the American way of life! All lives Matter, not Only BLACK CRIMINAL LIVES MATTER!!!!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Clearly it started as a nonviolent, “routine” traffic stop, so why wasn’t a utopian social services professional called in to handle it from the outset?


39 posted on 07/05/2020 11:49:34 AM PDT by DPMD (uo)
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To: rktman

I was in Keystone, SD (3 miles from Mt Rushmore) for Trumps visit. The Trump crowd gave police and sheriff’s deputies a standing ovation when they went buy. There were 4 anti Trump jerks who were followed and heckeled out of town. It was ecstatic being in that crowd.


40 posted on 07/05/2020 1:17:23 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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