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Calm Down, Despite Media Hype Covid19 numbers are Dropping Fast
The Franklin County Journal ^ | 21 Aug 2020 | Dwight D. Weidman

Posted on 08/21/2020 7:24:53 PM PDT by Ikemeister

In Pennsylvania 93% of Covid 19 deaths were people over 60, almost all of whom had comorbidities, or complicating factors. In this sense, Covid19 was nowhere near as serious as the “Spanish Flu” epidemic of 1917-1918, which killed somewhere between 17-50 million out of 500 million people infected with a world population of about 1.5 billion people. In other words, about 33% of the world’s population became infected with Spanish Flu and about 3% perished. Today’s Covid19 numbers are not even close, with a total of 23 million worldwide cases and 800,000 deaths out of a global population of 7.8 Billion people.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
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To: JBourne

Karen is mostly hating on white females who speak up for themselves.

Yes I know we can go too far as can men and other ethnic groups.

But a Karen is a Middle Aged White woman, only. A racist sexist insult that is politically correct.


101 posted on 08/22/2020 12:05:19 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: central_va

Do you wear a mask in public and do you think it is doing any good? It’s a simple question.
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Not if I can help it. If a business requires it I will comply by always pulling it down below my nose to breath easier. No I don’t think they do any good. The mask are just a means of control over our lives.


102 posted on 08/22/2020 1:13:52 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: ifinnegan

It isn’t meant to mislead it’s just the raw daily death count. It could be adjusted to show a per capita rate but I haven’t seen a graph with that.

Take NY state out of U.S. figures and we’d be looking much better in comparison to any country.

Compare NY state alone to all other nation states and it would be close to the worst of all. It has almost double the population of Sweden so it wouldn’t be unfair to make the comparison.


103 posted on 08/22/2020 1:50:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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To: enumerated
You can try and live in a bubble, but all that does is weaken your immune system, so that when you finally do get exposed, you are worse off.

It's a truism that before coronavirus came along we we were all more susceptible. And now that it is here we will build up immunity. Nobody disagrees with that. In 1918 H1N1 was brand new and killed lots of people. It had almost 10% case fatality. Now we all get it and mostly have a very small case fatality 0.1% in a bad year.

But to say before coronavirus was around we were living in a bubble and getting weaker immune systems because of it is a little far fetched. There are undoubtedly tribes in the jungle that have not been exposed yet. Are their immune systems getting weaker each day that they are not exposed? No. It makes absolutely no difference if they are exposed today, next year or ten years fron now.

We should never have shut anything down, especially the schools. We should never have social distanced or worn these stupid bacteria ridden masks.

Masks suck and I wear one out of courtesy to people who think they work, and because I have to at work. The schools should have been left alone. The Swedish model worked pretty well. They had higher per capita death than we did, but now they have essentially zero death. The virus has burned itself out there. The virus has even burned itself out in a lot of NYC.

But many Swedes distanced. They weren't told to distance, but many of them did. They didn't wear masks, and of course masks are not very useful in many cases, so it didn't matter. The Swedish economy dropped 8,6% It's obvious why. People stopped going to restaurants, some stopped working, people curtailed shopping. All because of the virus.

104 posted on 08/22/2020 2:04:01 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: IrishBrigade
Yes I agree. I will always remember the Detroit bus driver who made the Youtube video complaining about the passenger coughing on everyone. A week or so later, he died of COVID. A little decency and he would be alive today.
105 posted on 08/22/2020 2:05:39 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: TigersEye

“It isn’t meant to mislead...”

I didn’t say it was meant to mislead. I said it’s a bit misleading.

It is the raw numbers, but not normalized for population. Normalization shows Italy and UK are worse than US, but the absolute number graph of course has the U.S. seemingly the worst at superficial glance.

And you’re right. New York City region, including up to Boston and down through New Jersey are a huge percentage of US cases.

New Orleans and Detroit are very high too.

Without these regions US is much lower in death index.

California has a high number of deaths, but deaths per capita are lower than the U.S. State average.


106 posted on 08/22/2020 2:07:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Ikemeister

Israel
Infected: 101,856
Active cases: 22.393
Deaths: 819
Recovered: 78,644

World
Infected: 23,329,452
Active cases: Not provided, but 23,329,452 - 807,055 -15,832,102 = 6,690,295 active cases
Deaths: 807,055
Recovered: 15,832,102

From Arutz Sheva homepage.


107 posted on 08/22/2020 2:48:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: TigersEye

The Second Wave is coming! Booga booga booga booga!


108 posted on 08/22/2020 2:50:36 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Eleutheria5

LOL Oh, yeah! It’s coming any time now.


109 posted on 08/22/2020 2:52:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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To: TigersEye

Democrats are traveling the countryside, sneezing on people in flyover land.


110 posted on 08/22/2020 2:59:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Eleutheria5

When I sneeze my Mossberg goes off. :)


111 posted on 08/22/2020 3:23:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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To: palmer

“But to say before coronavirus was around we were living in a bubble and getting weaker immune systems because of it is a little far fetched.”

I didn’t exactly say that - but you are right, we were not living in a bubble and getting weaker before Covid19 came along. We were getting exposed to lots of other coronaviruses (the common cold for example), and getting stronger as a result.

When someone with a cold (coronavirus) is coughing and sneezing, we shun them, rightly call them names for spreading germs, and try not to touch anything they touched.

But it is largely futile because people can hide their symptoms and you can’t tell who is sick or what has been touched.

“There are undoubtedly tribes in the jungle that have not been exposed yet. Are their immune systems getting weaker each day that they are not exposed? No.“

That is debatable. Viruses, and even coronaviruses, have differences, but they also have similarities. Arguably, a person who has been exposed to a lot of different coronaviruses, but not Covid19, would have an advantage fighting off Covid19, over someone who had lived in a bubble.

Using your tribes in the jungle example, let’s say two tribes that never saw an automobile or a semi before, were suddenly placed in the middle of a busy five lane intersection during rush hour. They may not fare so well, since they wouldn’t have the experience to know what the danger was.

But let’s say one tribe survived for generations growing crops, while the other tribe were hunters who evolved around herds of wild Elephants, Rhinoceros, etc.. Perhaps that tribe might have developed the natural speed, agility and awareness to avoid fast-moving objects that weigh several tons. So they might fare better in traffic than the other tribe, even though they had never been exposed to automobiles.

I think it’s fair to say that if you let yourself get exposed to everything, you probably have the immune system of a buzzard. If you are a germaphobe, you probably don’t. I would rather have the immune system of a buzzard, so I only follow the “guidelines” out of respect for other people’s fears.

But I don’t respect Fauci and the others spreading fear when they know better. They are doing it for Big Pharma $$$ and to try and mess up President Trump’s re-election politics.


112 posted on 08/22/2020 3:31:43 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated
We were getting exposed to lots of other coronaviruses (the common cold for example), and getting stronger as a result.

I agree with that. The more people are exposed to similar viruses the better off they will be for the new one.

Arguably, a person who has been exposed to a lot of different coronaviruses, but not Covid19, would have an advantage fighting off Covid19, over someone who had lived in a bubble.

I think that's a valid argument.

But I don’t respect Fauci and the others spreading fear when they know better. They are doing it for Big Pharma $$$ and to try and mess up President Trump’s re-election politics.

I agree with that. They are spreading fear to kill the economy, plain and simple. The tactic has worked worldwide.

113 posted on 08/22/2020 3:36:17 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: crusty old prospector

Well of course! You and your friends sit together in the library, a roaring fire in the fireplace, the Golden Retriever at your feet ...

Sounds lovely! I’m sure that there are some dastardly schemes you all dream up. ;)


114 posted on 08/22/2020 3:39:33 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give Me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: TigersEye

So long as you wear a face mask;-)


115 posted on 08/22/2020 4:31:18 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Ikemeister
its been political since day one....I don't know if I believe it was planned, but boy isn't it ironic that it came along when it did...and we all have to wear masks like antifag.....

I can report from my hospital that are covid admissions are down.....

116 posted on 08/22/2020 4:36:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Eleutheria5

How ‘bout if I put a surgical mask over the end of the shotgun?
Keepin’ it safe for everybody!


117 posted on 08/22/2020 4:40:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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To: proud American in Canada

Sure, usually we like to drill right in the middle of an old timer’s pecan orchard. We just mow them down with a bulldozer. He can replant them.


118 posted on 08/22/2020 5:38:28 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: TigersEye; All
Take NY state out of U.S. figures and we’d be looking much better in comparison to any country.

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You can take NY out in May

Or you can take NY out in August, it makes no difference. NY easily won the race to kill the most people

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The death figures are a little old but ONLY DimWIT governors killed by putting infected into nursing homes. The DemWIT state death rates are about four times per million of many of the RED states.


119 posted on 08/22/2020 6:39:20 PM PDT by politicianslie (I took HCQ+Zn on the 3rd day of symptoms. It is a grand slam home run cure!)
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To: politicianslie

Nicely done. Thank you!


120 posted on 08/22/2020 7:07:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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