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The hype over Covid19 is more about politics than public health.
1 posted on 08/21/2020 7:24:53 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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That has been obvious since April to anyone who’s not lying to you...

But hasn’t stopped the left from completely politicizing and lying about it


2 posted on 08/21/2020 7:27:55 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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3 posted on 08/21/2020 7:30:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wear Your Mask-Stay In Your Home-Do What You're Told-Vote Democrat)
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An opportunity to throw the elections


4 posted on 08/21/2020 7:31:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (On Don't be a statist!)
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The Karen’s don’t like this thread.


6 posted on 08/21/2020 7:34:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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I just saw a commercial within last few hours, it was in regard to Covid where it stated we will never get back to normal.

Unreal that it was that blatant.


8 posted on 08/21/2020 7:37:34 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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Yes, it’s odd that once impeachment was over, Covid-19 sprang up.

And I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist.


9 posted on 08/21/2020 7:38:19 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give Me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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The Virus
Is
Dead,
Jim.


19 posted on 08/21/2020 7:57:12 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP vs Biden-----------Any Question?)
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7.8 Billion People with
800,000 deaths,,,
Not Spanish Flu,,,
More like “Swine Flu”?
.
More or Less?
.
A complete HOAX!


30 posted on 08/21/2020 8:07:08 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP vs Biden-----------Any Question?)
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Latest memo from Rat Party Headquarters is that by Election Day 29 million Americans will have died of the Trump Flu and the unemployment rate will be 27%.


31 posted on 08/21/2020 8:09:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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In early November, Covid19 will be just a memory. The civil war will be taking up all the news.


36 posted on 08/21/2020 8:28:53 PM PDT by matthew fuller (we're "blessed to have a leader" like Trump. Goya CEO)
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68% of deaths in PA were in nursing homes.

Per capita rate worse than NY.

Outside of Filthadelphia you were at greater risk from a deer crashing through your windshield.

39 posted on 08/21/2020 8:38:02 PM PDT by Eagles6
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40 posted on 08/21/2020 8:43:32 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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53 posted on 08/21/2020 9:07:04 PM PDT by nutmeg (Mega prayers for Rush Limbaugh)
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l8r


60 posted on 08/21/2020 9:31:43 PM PDT by preacher ( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
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They’ve been dropping since the end of June. This whole ‘’pandemic’’ has been the biggest BULLSH!T ever perpetrated on the American public.

Day after day in the hospital I work in I see normalcy has
returned as far as doing elective surgery again, physical therapy is being done again, all the sections of our ER are back to normal, including minor treatment( that doesn’t mean kids, just routine, non-life threatening stuff).


69 posted on 08/21/2020 10:26:35 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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It’s not really valid to compare total case and death counts from an ongoing pandemic to one which has long since completed. That would be like saying on July 17th 1969 that Apollo 11 was a failure because nobody had walked on the moon. They were still in flight. You can’t judge the outcome of something that is still in progress. The case counts and death counts for COVID-19 are incomplete at this time, and also very preliminary. Two years after the end of the pandemic we can accurately compare the outcomes, but we don’t know what the outcome is yet for COVID-19.

We could look at the R0 values and the CFR/IFR numbers, but even that requires the use of preliminary data for COVID-19 and estimates based on incomplete data for the 1918 flu pandemic. If we’re to do so anyway, we’ll see that the R0 for SARS-CoV-2 is estimated between 2.2 and 3.8. For the 1918 Spanish flu, R in the summer is estimated to have been 2-5.4 and in the fall it fell to 1.2-1.6. The latter wave was far more deadly for Spanish flu, but also spread far less effectively than SARS-CoV-2.

The case fatality rate for COVID-19 is currently 3.5% (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries take deaths divided by cases for CFR), but that’s falling as testing increases and we catch more cases with mild or no symptoms present. The infection fatality rate (rate of death independent of missed cases) is estimated between 0.64 and 0.66%. The CFR for Spanish flu 1918’s summer wave was 0.35%, then 2.3% in the fall and 1.7% that following winter. The sum is 1.7% (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2674012/).

If we were to judge based on those numbers, SARS-CoV-2 spreads faster than the latter two waves of the 1918 Spanish flu and kills more often (based on CFR). However, two things are key here: 1) we’re missing a lot of cases. Not only here, but especially globally. So that CFR is known to be quite high relative to what it actually is in reality (again, IFR estimated at 0.65%, vs CFR at 3.4%). And 2) what we didn’t have in 1918 were the tools to rapidly combat the disease. We have treatments which are improving case outcomes and we’ll soon likely have one or more vaccines available which should quickly bring the pandemic to an end before it can fully do its damage.

In the US, about 8.4% of the population has been infected so far (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ calculated taking the total deaths divided by the current best estimate IFR). By the most wildly optimistic estimate, the herd immunity threshold lies somewhere in the neighborhood of 43%. The R0 range suggests it should be somewhere between 55% and 74%. So our absolute worse case scenario (highest R0, no vaccine ever developed, no further improvement of treatments) puts us on track for a result that’s about 75% of what Spanish flu did (0.4884% population loss from COVID-19 vs 0.6553% from 1918 Spanish flu based on 675,000 US deaths from here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm and 103 million US population in 1918 from here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2740912/). Actual numbers would likely be lower (probably closer to ~64% of the death rate for 1918’s Spanish flu based on 65% HIT and 0.65% IFR), since what we looked at was the absolute worst-case scenario for COVID-19.

That’s a fair comparison, based on the information we have available today, of what a final outcome for each would look like without modern medicine. However, thanks to modern medicine, we’re improving outcomes for many patients being treated and we’re very close to a vaccine that should halt the pandemic altogether. So we need not worry. We can thank President Trump for his leadership in creating the regulatory and economic environment that’s bringing us the fastest vaccine in human history while still having it go through all the normal phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 human clinical trials to ensure it is both safe and effective.


73 posted on 08/22/2020 1:01:25 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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Simple solution to the pandemic,,,,Make HCQ and Azithromycin OTC drugs so anyone who develops a cough and/or fever can go the nearest drug store and self medicate with the drugs along with Zinc Sulfate with correct dosage within 48 hours of symptoms and pandemic over.,,,,,instead of waiting a few days to get tested and 5 days for the results,,,,if over 60 years of age,,,,you’re dead.


75 posted on 08/22/2020 3:16:13 AM PDT by chopperk (L)
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Simple solution to the pandemic,,,,Make HCQ and Azithromycin OTC drugs so anyone who develops a cough and/or fever can go the nearest drug store and self medicate with the drugs along with Zinc Sulfate with correct dosage within 48 hours of symptoms and pandemic over.,,,,,instead of waiting a few days to get tested and 5 days for the results,,,,if over 60 years of age,,,,you’re dead.


76 posted on 08/22/2020 3:17:33 AM PDT by chopperk (L)
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88 posted on 08/22/2020 7:56:02 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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Israel
Infected: 101,856
Active cases: 22.393
Deaths: 819
Recovered: 78,644

World
Infected: 23,329,452
Active cases: Not provided, but 23,329,452 - 807,055 -15,832,102 = 6,690,295 active cases
Deaths: 807,055
Recovered: 15,832,102

From Arutz Sheva homepage.


107 posted on 08/22/2020 2:48:54 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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