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Lawmaker proposes life long orders of protection
News 4 Nashville ^ | February 1, 2021 | Carley Gordon

Posted on 02/08/2021 12:54:40 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a

NASHVILLE, TN (WSMV) - Tennessee House Majority Leader William Lamberth has proposed a law that would create life-long orders of protection.

The idea is to prevent victims from being revictimized, like Nikki Goeser.

Goeser had been married for just over 16 months when her husband Ben Goeser was murdered in Brentwood in 2009.

The killer was Hank Wise. Attorneys said he was obsessed with Nikki Goeser.

“Ben was shot seven times in the middle of a busy restaurant in front of 50 witnesses and security cameras,” Nikki Goeser told News4 in 2020.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsmv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: antisecondamendment; banglist; crime; feministlaws; guncontrol; orderofprotection; prison; socialistfeminism; stalker; unconstitutional
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1 posted on 02/08/2021 12:54:40 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Yep. It’s a proven fact that a piece of paper will stop someone from repeat attacks.


2 posted on 02/08/2021 1:01:04 PM PST by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts. )
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Good idea. Makes sense, particularly requiring jail time each time the order is violated


3 posted on 02/08/2021 1:01:31 PM PST by chuckee
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
Like a permanent restraining order is going to stop anyone who wishes to harm an individual. No different then taking away the right to own a gun from anyone convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence. Anyone in this position who is determined to hurt an individual can easily do so and a restraining order stops nothing. If someone is truly violent they should remain in jail, but god for bid that happens.

More over reaching legislation.
4 posted on 02/08/2021 1:03:06 PM PST by RBW in PA
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Methinks Nikki would have been better served by a loaded .38 and not a piece of paper....


5 posted on 02/08/2021 1:06:16 PM PST by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Pieces of paper have been proven by gun ranges across America, to not stop any projectile design fired from handgun, rifle or shotgun, of any ignition method.


6 posted on 02/08/2021 1:07:30 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
How do you invoke lifelong orders of protection while simultaneously getting rid of bail and jail time for committing crimes? I'm just curious?
7 posted on 02/08/2021 1:08:49 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Lawmaker proposes life long orders of protection

I thought that Democrats already had that, automatically, from birth.

8 posted on 02/08/2021 1:09:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

One would think either the prison or the postal system could prevent this from happening. When online, you can Block somebody from making direct contact. It should be just as easy with physical mail, especially after a bloody murder has been committed. The Surviving victim should not have to hire a lawyer to make this happen.


9 posted on 02/08/2021 1:09:39 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Terry L Smith

Although, the Mythbusters found that phone books lining the doors of your car will stop most things shy of a .50 BMG...


10 posted on 02/08/2021 1:10:00 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
"Wise was convicted and sent to prison, but News4 discovered he continued to write love letters to her from behind bars."

There was a time when inmates were restricted on who they could write to, and receive mail from, and who they could call. If they'd just execute these bastards, without giving them a millennia to appeal their death sentence, this type of crap wouldn't happen. You can write all the laws you want, but how is that going to stop someone behind bars who hasn't got anything to lose by violating those laws? If he's doing life, it's no big deal. The problem is that inmates will get their mail out one way or the other. They will get another inmate to send their letters to the people they aren't supposed to be contacting. Inmates aren't supposed to correspond with inmates in other prisons without the approval of the Superintendent, but they do it, by sending their letters to someone on the outside, who then resends the letter to the inmate using their own address. They'll even get naive prison employees to do their dirty work for them. There are plenty of ways to circumnavigate the prison mail system. A new law isn't going to stop it.

11 posted on 02/08/2021 1:12:04 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: ASOC

...Methinks Nikki would have been better served by a loaded .38 and not a piece of paper....

Does the permanent restraining order include a “Get Out of Jail Free” card for killing him if he get within range? It would be helpful.


12 posted on 02/08/2021 1:15:03 PM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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To: ASOC
If you read up on the case, you'll find out that Nikki had her carry permit, but she was with her husband in a restaurant which served alcohol. In 2009 in Tennessee, you couldn't legally carry in such an establishment. Nikki followed the law; the killer didn't. (The law has since been changed.)

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13 posted on 02/08/2021 1:18:32 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

As with “exclusion zones” for pedophiles, a method I don’t think has been tried yet are “area injunctions”. In this case over a very large area.

For example, if the victim lives in the middle of a large county, the offender might be excluded from entering or being in the county itself. If near the edge, several counties might be stipulated. Alternatively, an entire major municipal area, which could amount to a hundred or more square miles.

At the same time, since such orders are state level, they could not generally be forced to leave the state, except for perhaps special circumstances.

Personally a gun for self protection is best, except for stalkers who could use ambush as a means.


14 posted on 02/08/2021 1:23:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Yes, a piece of paper will stop bullets. Proven fact.


15 posted on 02/08/2021 1:26:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (In a world where EVERYTHING is declared "racist", the word has no meaning.)
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To: chuckee

if they do it

female often get a pussy pass on violating court orders and stalking


16 posted on 02/08/2021 1:28:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

I’d just like to know why someone who committed cold-blooded murder in public and has been stalking his victim’s wife from prison is going to be released after only 12 years ...


17 posted on 02/08/2021 1:31:47 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: ASOC

She had a .38 but she was in a gun-free zone, mandated by state law and left her gun locked in her vehicle that night as a law-abiding citizen. www.stalkedanddefenseless.com


18 posted on 02/08/2021 1:48:15 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a
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To: Veggie Todd

It is indeed only a piece of paper, but this lady carries a gun and if the offender comes near her upon his release, a life-long order of protection on record would be a pretty solid defense should she have to defend herself from him.


19 posted on 02/08/2021 1:51:04 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a
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To: Campion

The offender is Hank Wise. His early release date is Oct 21, 2028. He has been allowed to earn early release credits for “good behavior.”


20 posted on 02/08/2021 1:53:27 PM PST by VictimsRightsPro2a
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