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The Truth Nobody Tells About Our Voting Rules
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2021 | Neil Patel

Posted on 03/19/2021 6:07:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/19/2021 6:07:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Just imagen if 15 and 16 year old’s were allowed to vote.


2 posted on 03/19/2021 6:09:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Joe Biden will Especial never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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We need a voting system that lets any eligible voter who wants to vote do so conveniently

That would be true if, and only if, strong qualifications for the privilege of voting were in place.

On our current road, making it easier for anyone to vote with no qualifications for the franchise are merely the road to ruination.

3 posted on 03/19/2021 6:15:06 AM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Kaslin

Put ANY immoral issue on the ballot, and the perverted (’Rats especially, of course) will vote in droves.

It worked with marijuana, and there are 50 US state flags that could stitch on a marijuana leaf in support. Start with a few legalized states, and the ‘Rats will hold majority power forever.

Are brothels next?


4 posted on 03/19/2021 6:16:59 AM PDT by Does so (The Media is the enemy of the people...Trial lawyers close behind...)
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To: Kaslin

During the years of the Vietnam War, the age of voting was lowered from 21 to 18, to equate the age of voting to the age of dying for your country.

To reduce the voting age to 16, would equate the voting age to the of gullibility, as demonstrated by all the bernie and AOC brats.


5 posted on 03/19/2021 6:18:12 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Kaslin
Reminds me of this supposed quote:

“When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

The new election paradigms are all but given be it at the state or federal level. The question becomes can conservatives and the GOP adapt with better ideas and effort?

6 posted on 03/19/2021 6:23:30 AM PDT by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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To: Kaslin

“Highly educated” does not mean smart.
It means they went to some college where they wasted four years or more in b***s**t courses like wimyns studies, pronoun selection, and political “science”.

They are as dumb as dirt, with apologies to dirt.


7 posted on 03/19/2021 6:23:56 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Kaslin

There is literally one national election every 4 years for one office (well, two really): President and Vice President. That is the ONLY time the entire nation votes in a national election.

Each and every other election - Senators, Reps, Governors, State offices, local offices - are at the State level.

Why the Federal Government thinks it can run all those local elections is an affront to the concept of protected States Rights.

Sure, if there are overriding Constitutional issues - mostly involving protected classes - the Federal Courts can respond and legislation can be passed; but to dictate the method of voting for thousands of state and local elections annually to “protect” voters’ rights for one vote every 4 years is an extreme overreach.

Unfortunately, when they do away with the filibuster (only a matter of time), HR1 too might pass...


8 posted on 03/19/2021 6:24:27 AM PDT by dan on the right ( )
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To: oldbill

Excellent point.


9 posted on 03/19/2021 6:30:26 AM PDT by Kaslin (Joe Biden will Especial never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: Kaslin
We need a voting system that lets any eligible voter who wants to vote do so conveniently.

No. Voting should require an effort on behalf of the voter. Furthermore, it should, where possible, be limited to people are literate in English, are taxpayers, and have some idea as to what they voting for.
10 posted on 03/19/2021 6:44:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: dan on the right

Actually, even presidential elections are state functions. We don’t have federally administered elections. Each state allows the people to express their choice for president and, in turn, sends a slate of electors to DC who are the ones who elect the president and vice president.


11 posted on 03/19/2021 6:46:55 AM PDT by cartoonistx ( the feeling of fainting! )
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To: Little Ray

My native language is German, I speak, read and write in English as you can see.


12 posted on 03/19/2021 6:49:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (Joe Biden will Especial never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: Kaslin

That is excellent. Welcome to the voting booth.
Now graduates of Baltimore schools on the other hand...


13 posted on 03/19/2021 6:52:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: Kaslin

He might have point about the demographics but much of this has nothing to do with demographics but rather with enabling election fraud.


14 posted on 03/19/2021 6:52:55 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Does so

Yes, and then pedophilia, that is the end game. Those perverts that are not satisfied with heterosexual relationships, cannot be satisfied with homosexual relationships and they aren’t, it always go beyond, to perversion with children.


15 posted on 03/19/2021 7:01:30 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Kaslin

allowing cities to keep voter registration rolls and not show ID means that organizations can control, buy, and sell the city vote. If people move apartments every 4 years, organizations can vote for them in every place they lived and registered. Black people vote sometimes as high as 90% for a candidate. But they are not voting under their name. They are going to vote over and over as other people. Now with mail in ballots they are out of a job. Because people can simply mail in those ballots. Democrats would lose maybe 20% of the city vote and the college town vote if registered voters rolls were cleaned and IDs were required. You need an ID to cash a check,. You need an ID to buy liquor or go to a bar. These people have IDs.


16 posted on 03/19/2021 7:13:07 AM PDT by poinq
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To: Jim Noble

No, make it an effort. Not insurmountable, but noticeable. More than getting out of bed in the morning. About what is needed to make your own cup of coffee. Get your butt over to a polling station with a photo ID and if your name is not on the pre-approved and vetted voting roll, walk your butt back home you lazy dog. Does the word “planning” mean nothing to you?


17 posted on 03/19/2021 8:07:00 AM PDT by bobbo666 (votin)
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To: Kaslin
Townhall has some real winners as writers. In a pervious opinion piece title, "Conservatives Should Embrace the President's Solid Inaugural Message", Patel was serious about Biden's message of unity in his inaugural address. In this article, Patel focuses on what he perceives as being the issues surrounding voting rules. This of course involves voting technology and how we need to accept and embrace that going forward as a strategy. He even refers to what used to be called hanging chads, as if that was even a problem today.

Let's get this straight. Voting rules need to be implemented by the state legislatures, per the US Constitution. The voting rules need to be simple and with one goal: one legal vote for every citizen of voting age that wants to vote. It is not about technology. It is not about increasing voter turn out. It is not about non-partisanship, unity or any notion of "democracy". It is solely about voting in representative republic and insuring that fraud does not occur.

This is the system that I would like to see: It begins with identifying legal voters. This requires photo IDs, signatures, advanced registration. It means illegal immigrants/aliens do not get ID in this country. It means that a photo ID is only valid if US citizenship is proven when obtaining the ID. Voter registration is not the day of the election. It is done ahead of time. I do not care if it is a week, a month or year ahead of time. The point is to identify and register legal voters. Registration should occur at the county/parish level of government and no third party can register a voter. It should be individually motivated. US citizenship is verified as part of the registration process.

Voter registration information, ID and signature are matched when voting in person. Signatures at the voting place are matched with the signature in voter registration books. Photo IDs are matched to the face of the person voting. When it comes to voting in-person I will go as far as painting an indelible dye on the forehead of people who have already voted so it clear that they have already voted. This stops people going from one polling place to another to vote twice.

There is very little room for absentee ballots and absolutely no room for mail-in ballots. They smell like fraud ready to happen and that in itself dictates the vigilance. Solve the problem simply. No mail-in ballots, period. Absentee ballots should only allowed by those with valid reasons that submit a sworn and notarized affidavit stating the an allowable need for the absentee ballot. Voting should occur on a single day, in-person, during the hours stated by law. Not before, not after, not in drop boxes, in-person, at a polling place. Just like it has occurred for over 200 years.

Personally, I do not trust technology. It can and will be manipulated. I do trust written ballots. That is a ballot filled out by the hand of the voter on paper. If a voter is physically unable to fill out a ballot, he may have the assistance of a family member or friend who is also registered to vote.

No provisional ballots: If you can't get your voter registration correct and cannot arrive at your correct polling place, then no ballot for you. Advanced registration eliminates the need for provisional ballots.

I trust observers from the public, not government. Hand count every vote, with every legally cast ballot physically passing the hands of election observers from any and all parties, or lack of party. Anyone will be allowed to observe the vote counters. If you want technology, here's the place for it. Live-stream the vote count. Record the entire counting process.

It looks like this: each ballot is placed clearly in front of a camera. Another camera, synchronized with the a timestamp of the ballot camera records each voter counter and records the audible recognition of the vote count. Lastly, an third camera, also with timestamp synchronization with the other two cameras records the vote tally being recorded. The audio/video should be streamed to the Internet for anyone to see. It is also stored on the Internet for replay. Do this at the precinct level, so there is no fraud occurring during the change of custody the physical ballots as they move to the county/parish courthouse.

Vote totals are transmitted from the precinct to county/parish courthouse, and then to the state's secretary of state's office. The vote count is verified by precinct observers when it is included in the tally at the the country level and at the state level. Technology can be used in this case; a simple website that has vote tallies enumerated by precinct.

The physical ballots sealed in a secure box at the voting precinct are retained for inspection, audit and recount purposes for eternity. The video/audio recording is stored in another sealed and secure box. They move from the precinct to the county courthouse with chain of custody being documented. Sealed ballots are stored in vault. They can only be removed from the vault and unsealed by court order.

18 posted on 03/19/2021 8:18:56 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin
One provision in particular gives away their partisan motivations. The bill would ban states from requiring voters to show an ID when voting or even when requesting absentee or mail-in ballots.

Kind of like GA banning Sunday voting.

This is a good article that gets to an important point; the Republicans can't continue to rely on tamping down the Democrat vote. They've got to work on getting to majority status.

19 posted on 03/19/2021 8:40:40 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: cartoonistx

Right. Popular vote for president is a choice by state legislatures. They could flip a coin.


20 posted on 03/19/2021 8:56:15 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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