Posted on 09/29/2021 6:20:47 PM PDT by dangus
Several mainstream news outlets are reporting that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service has declared that 23 species have gone extinct. Actually, 12 of them already had been declared extinct. Of the 11, 8 never existed in the U.S., three were never species but rather subspecies of still very-much-surviving species, and six are fraudulently identified as "species."
The most egregious example is the Pinta Island Giant Tortoise, the supposed last of which was Lonesome George who died in 2012. Lonesome George was the only known Pinta Island Giant Tortoise since he was discovered in 1971.
There are still plenty of descendents of Pinta Island Giant Tortoises, however. See, there are twenty-something species of Galapagos turtles; pretty much every island has its own. But they're not actually isolated species at all! Rather, they freely interbreed with each other. In fact, as Lonesone George was dying, researchers found 17 first-generation hybrids, including juveniles, on ANOTHER ISLAND.
"First generation hybrids" means that one parent was a full-blooded Pinta Island Giant Tortoise, and one was not. So this means that not only do these supposedly separate species interbreed, but there were other full-blooded Pinta Island Giant Tortoises somewhere else on this other island... or at least there had been recently.
How did they go undiscovered until 2012? Simple: they're identical to other "species" of tortoise. It was only after genetic testing that these hybrids were found to be descendents of the Pinta Island tortoises.
So, just to keep track. This extinct species of tortoise...
1) never existed in the United States in the first place
2) is physiologically identical to other "species"
3) contrary to the definition of "species," regularly produces fertile hybrid offspring with other "species"
4) is probably still around other islands
5) definitely has surviving offspring
Drat, I had my high-horse out and saddled.
Species have been coming and going since the beginning of time. To attempt to alter that flow is really an attempt to disrupt nature.
I lost count. Does this mean that there is a single species of something that might be extinct in the U S? Gives me the vapors.
One Invasive species killed off the Ivory Billed Woodpeckers and the Carolina Parakeets. An invasive insect was introduced nationally in the 17th Century. It swarmed into and took over hollow trees where the birds had their communal nesting spaces. Woodpecker and Parakeet populations crashed by 90% and never recovered.
The invasive insect? The European Honeybee.
Don’t tell anyone, but all camelid and equine species that originated in North America were extinct long before Europeans arrived. Apparently a mysterious two-legged predator hunted them to their end.
There once was a girl named Myrtle.
Who had an affair with a turtle.
But what was phenomenal,
The swelling abdominal,
It proved the turtle was fertile.
Gorebal Warning Syndrome has deeply afflicted the minds at U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Thanks for the info. Copied it so I’ll have an argument to use next time I have a pointless discussion with a GW millennial.
According to classical “evolutionary theory,” 95% of all species that ever existed are extinct. Six billion years is a long time for evolution to run its course, at least that is what the retromingent clowns calling themselves “scientists” want us to believe.
To an extent I agree.
I don’t want to see us lose more species, but as you say, it
is the natural course of things.
As man increases here on Earth though, it’s will put more
impact on nature.
I would like to see us find a way to live off world. At
some point we’ll need to. I don’t want to go crazy over
it, but moving in that direction is probably a good idea.
People have thought we were overtaxing our environment
for over a century. They didn’t think we could support
the number of people we have today.
We’ve got a long way to go before mass starvation, if we
manage things reasonably.
I do not mean how a Leftist would manage things. I mean
reasonably through a robust Capitalist society.
From reading the article, I don’t think it means any
species went extinct on U. S. soil.
Could be. Might not be.
It’s over my pay grade.
Perhaps we couldn’t live today if some of those species didn’t
die.
We can think of some viruses that we’re glad went pretty
much extinct.
Two. The ivory-billed woodpecker, and a species of Maui honeycreepers.
If the darwinian theory they propound is in fact true, their efforts to artificially perpetuate moribound species should be viewed as tampering with mother nature.
While that may be true for both, I believe the Ivory Billed
Woodpecker did go extinct. This is addressing 13 specific
species and I don’t believe those two are listed in that
group of 13.
The article did mention that no species on U. S. soil were
included. (I believe...)
Species have been coming and going for all time. The human species has had several iterations. No one seems to bemoan the Neanderthals passing when many of us carry Neanderthal genes. Many of us are hybrid species humans.
“Species have been coming and going since the beginning of time. To attempt to alter that flow is really an attempt to disrupt nature.”
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
Now all you have to do is to tell the idiots who produced this rubbish.
Bookmark.
I thought it was about GW
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