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I'm starting to forgive Dershowitz a little lately.
1 posted on 12/24/2021 11:21:44 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Lots for her to appeal.


2 posted on 12/24/2021 11:22:27 AM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: Navy Patriot
The guy she killed was a piece of garbage.

Still, if someone makes a big enough t mistake while driving a car and kills someone β€” can they not be charged with manslaughter?

3 posted on 12/24/2021 11:24:01 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Keep your underwear on, Dersh.


4 posted on 12/24/2021 11:24:37 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Her better defense is deadly force was ok to be used.

Mistakes can be crimes. If I mistakenly leave a gun out and a kid uses it...I can be charged. If I mistakenly pull a trigger on my gun and kill sommeone I can be charged.


5 posted on 12/24/2021 11:25:41 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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The point,I believe is a judge who releases a person who kills could be charged with murder.


6 posted on 12/24/2021 11:28:05 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Navy Patriot

The Left, as particularly represented by Holder and Obama, have always wanted local police under Federal political control.

Using a politically weaponized DOJ, the have effectively succeeded.

Local police can and will act quickly - IF there is top-down political will and agreement on the target.

But when it comes to day-to-day policing and random crime for the common people - citizens will not be protected. You will continue to see crime increase rapidly.


7 posted on 12/24/2021 11:28:56 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot

Potter’s crime was PWW.

Policing while white.

Kinda like blacks who so often say DWB is a crime, driving while black.


8 posted on 12/24/2021 11:29:38 AM PST by Biblebelter
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Daunte was a dangerous violent felon attempting to get behind a 4 ton machine that can easily kill anyone in its path. To say this woman murdered him is insane. Every cop should just quit. These neighborhoods don’t want you there, the politicians don’t have your back, and soon those very same politicians are going to order you to start bashing the heads of the “unvaccinated.”


9 posted on 12/24/2021 11:30:04 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Navy Patriot

I recall hearing that the judge called the jurors “heroes.”


10 posted on 12/24/2021 11:30:14 AM PST by Salvey
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Carelessness or recklessness resulting in death is still a crime.


18 posted on 12/24/2021 11:37:28 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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My hope is those jurors meet a Dante wright, and the cops, for fear of prosecution ask them to call back when the crime is completed.


20 posted on 12/24/2021 11:39:22 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Navy Patriot

Haven’t been following. I agree manslaughter but 20 years? Damn.


24 posted on 12/24/2021 11:45:06 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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"Under American law, honest mistakes are not crimes β€” even if they result in tragic deaths."

There's a truck driver in Colorado doing 110 years for vehicular homicide among other things who might disagree with you.

26 posted on 12/24/2021 11:46:44 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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I have mixed emotions about this case.

Although I point out that Baldwin has not yet been charged. More on this later.

First, the jury did request both the stun gun and the regular handgun from Potter.

I am to understand, first, that one of the guns is in a holster on the left and one on a holster on the right.

Potter’s been a cop for 15 years. Shouldn’t she have know this already?

Also, there is a very distinct difference between the weight of the stun vs the hand buns. There is a distinct size difference between the two.

In other words, there is a very obvious difference between the two and you mean she didn’t notice it?

Bearing in mind her words of “STUN GUN” she kept shouting. Wouldn’t some of this have registered in her 15 years of experience?

I am not sitting here saying I think the woman should be jailed. Frankly I just do not know.

But it should not have happened.

Yeah I know the victim was a criminal of the top order but a cop with 15 years experience should not have mistaken a stun for a regular gun.

There should be no punishment for this that cost a life?

And if this cop should be punished, why does Baldwin get to say he did not pull the trigger and he is not punished for which is also claimed to be an accident?

I just don’t know....perhaps a year in jail and the loss of her job should be about right for punishment.

And Baldwin should get some punishment too.


27 posted on 12/24/2021 11:48:00 AM PST by Fishtalk
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“Under American law, honest mistakes are not crimes β€” even if they result in tragic deaths.”

ANY person in America who shoots somebody in their own home will be guilty of a crime.

No matter the circumstances absent proven self defense.


31 posted on 12/24/2021 11:55:03 AM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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Sorry, but if you accidentally shoot a cop you’ll hang. Assuming you survive the arrest and booking.


34 posted on 12/24/2021 11:57:33 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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Me too.......but we need to get this crap under control. This being afraid to NOT covict when a white officer kills a black turd and pays for it with jail time is a disgrace!! That’s another play by the Demonrats to divide and conquer! I pray to God that the margins of victory will neuter any cheating that goes on in 2022.....we need NEW CONSERVATIVE Patriots running our country. It’s our only hope of getting our country back!


35 posted on 12/24/2021 12:03:39 PM PST by Dawgreg
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It’s strange seeing all these law and order Republicans weeping over someone going to jail.


36 posted on 12/24/2021 12:04:54 PM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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after a jury convicted her Thursday on two counts of manslaughter.

Like in the Chauvin case, more than one conviction for manslaughter for one death. In the Chauvin case, he was (wrongfully) convicted of manslaughter AND murder!

47 posted on 12/24/2021 12:28:32 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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609.20 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

Whoever does any of the following is guilty of manslaughter in the first degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 15 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both:

(1) intentionally causes the death of another person in the heat of passion provoked by such words or acts of another as would provoke a person of ordinary self-control under like circumstances, provided that the crying of a child does not constitute provocation;

(2) violates section 609.224 and causes the death of another or causes the death of another in committing or attempting to commit a misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor offense with such force and violence that death of or great bodily harm to any person was reasonably foreseeable, and murder in the first or second degree was not committed thereby;

(3) intentionally causes the death of another person because the actor is coerced by threats made by someone other than the actor’s coconspirator and which cause the actor reasonably to believe that the act performed by the actor is the only means of preventing imminent death to the actor or another;

(4) proximately causes the death of another, without intent to cause death by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule III, IV, or V; or

(5) causes the death of another in committing or attempting to commit a violation of section 609.377 (malicious punishment of a child), and murder in the first, second, or third degree is not committed thereby.

As used in this section, a “person of ordinary self-control” does not include a person under the influence of intoxicants or a controlled substance.

609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.

A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:

(1) by the person’s culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or

(2) by shooting another with a firearm or other dangerous weapon as a result of negligently believing the other to be a deer or other animal; or

(3) by setting a spring gun, pit fall, deadfall, snare, or other like dangerous weapon or device; or

(4) by negligently or intentionally permitting any animal, known by the person to have vicious propensities or to have caused great or substantial bodily harm in the past, to run uncontrolled off the owner’s premises, or negligently failing to keep it properly confined; or

(5) by committing or attempting to commit a violation of section 609.378 (neglect or endangerment of a child), and murder in the first, second, or third degree is not committed thereby.

If proven by a preponderance of the evidence, it shall be an affirmative defense to criminal liability under clause (4) that the victim provoked the animal to cause the victim’s death.


48 posted on 12/24/2021 12:28:34 PM PST by teofila
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