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United employees granted vax exemptions put on unpaid leave, can't work elsewhere, activists claim
Just the News ^ | December 25, 2021 - | Natalia Mittelstadt

Posted on 12/26/2021 4:25:58 PM PST by cutty

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To: Blood of Tyrants

I hear that.


41 posted on 12/26/2021 6:05:04 PM PST by laplata
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To: cutty

I will never again fly United. Never.


42 posted on 12/26/2021 6:07:42 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: cgbg

As the Soviet workers said, “We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us”.

Similar problems exist in union shops in the US; diligent workers are told to slow down.


43 posted on 12/26/2021 6:41:18 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MercyFlush

Just the rumor alone that mechanics are sabotaging the jets will have a significant negative impact on the company. Keep the planes safe, promote the rumor.


44 posted on 12/26/2021 6:43:36 PM PST by RBW in PA
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To: T.B. Yoits

I wonder how employers with vax mandates intended to handle anyone with legitimate medical reasons to avoid the hot shots; we’re told that there are practically no valid medical reasons one shouldn’t get the needle, but an acquaintance told me her doctor insisted she not get it because of some recent medical procedure.

They could stick it to those seeking medical reasons with apparently little push-back or bad publicity, but how will they accommodate those with medical exemptions? If there really is a risk (to themselves or those around them), then you can’t just let them come to work; the Chicken Littles painted themselves into a corner on this issue.


45 posted on 12/26/2021 6:47:20 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: laplata

Agreed, I never read that post as advocating for sabotaging an airliner’s engine. I think he was talking about sabotaging United reputation for safety. Unilaterally grounding a couple dozen planes would do that, and kill no one. Climb down off your high horse, Karen.


46 posted on 12/26/2021 6:58:14 PM PST by Segovia
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To: cutty

There’s your proof.

This isn’t about health or safety - this is cold hearted political tyranny.


47 posted on 12/26/2021 7:01:02 PM PST by Skywise
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To: Segovia

+10


48 posted on 12/26/2021 7:08:27 PM PST by laplata
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To: RBW in PA

They just need to slow down their work or refuse to certify their work. Any sabotage is criminal and deserves prosecution.


49 posted on 12/26/2021 7:16:36 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: kearnyirish2

Excellent point about folks with medical issues not being able to get the shots.


50 posted on 12/26/2021 7:32:07 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks; I really don’t know how they can handle it. They can’t tell us co-worker A is dangerous because he doesn’t want them for personal reasons but co-worker B is safe because he has a valid medical reason not to get them. Either you can be around both safely or neither.


51 posted on 12/26/2021 7:44:40 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Segovia

“Climb down off your high horse, Karen”.

Is that meant for me or the poster we were discussing?


52 posted on 12/26/2021 8:15:42 PM PST by laplata
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To: MercyFlush

Why were you flying United (aka Untied) before???


53 posted on 12/26/2021 8:54:05 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cutty

how despotic and depraved at the same time. it’s like putting workers in virtual prison.


54 posted on 12/26/2021 8:59:28 PM PST by dadfly
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To: cutty

So thankful I got out of that company years ago. Continental Airlines was great, but when United bought them it all went to hell. From Worst to First back to Worst.


55 posted on 12/26/2021 9:52:08 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: cgbg

bye bye united


56 posted on 12/27/2021 2:42:47 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: TexasGurl24

“ I’m calling you out for playing internet lawyer and lying about what the law is.”

Well, I don’t know one way or another if the can enforce them (I certainly think it would be illogical to be able to), but based on the standards YOU DEMAND, it’s now up to YOU to prove your assertion that he’s lying.

See how that works? Let’s see your proof that he’s lying. You made the claim and per your standards, you must now back it up.

#turnaboutisfairplay


57 posted on 12/27/2021 7:40:35 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Spktyr

Cross country business trips had me flying United. Now I think I’ll pay the extra fare and go charter from now on.


58 posted on 12/27/2021 8:15:47 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Your post is asinine. He made the claim that there is a decision of the United States Supreme Court that says non-competes are unenforceable if you aren’t getting paid (layoff or termination.)

The burden is on him.

The burden doesn’t shift because someone calls him out as a liar. He made the claim, I don’t have to prove a negative.

Beyond that, I did link everyone to a State by State resource that affirms that what I said is correct. This is a matter a State law. The law varies State by State, and in many, employment non-competes are absolutely enforceable after the end of employment.

#Perhapsreadingisntyourstrongpoint

But, just for fun, we can run a lexisadvance search (something that actual lawyers have access to) and here are a few cases where non-competes were found to be valid and enforceable after the end of employment:

Ethicon, Inc. v. Randall, 2021 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 102119, at *69 (D.N.J. May 28, 2021)

Clifton Steel Co. v. Trinity Equip. Co., 2018-Ohio-2186, ¶ 41, 115 N.E.3d 10, 20 (Ct. App.)

Firstenergy Sols. Corp. v. Flerick, 521 F. App’x 521, 529 (6th Cir. 2013).

Nordetek Envtl., Inc. v. RDP Techs., Inc., 677 F. Supp. 2d 825, 843 (E.D. Pa. 2010)

#Whenyoucanpassabarexamcomebackandtalktome


59 posted on 12/27/2021 8:21:18 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

Sorry Karen, you’re wrong, in both your original whining and by pretending that you are not responsible for proving your claim that someone is a liar.

The original trigger for you was when CodeToad correctly posted that you must be paid for a non-compete to be enforceable. I realize you might get triggered from hearing that and this, not be able to read the following sentences, but it’s true.

You must be provided some “consideration”. That could be an outright cash payment, promotion, bonus, etc, but they’ve got to give you something for it. Read it for yourself.

https://www.upcounsel.com/non-compete-enforceability

FTA:

“ In most states, the non-compete agreement cannot be enforced unless the employee receives a payment or benefit in exchange for signing it. Some states only enforce trade secret protection but invalidate work restrictions. About 33 percent of states restrict non-compete agreements and do not enforce them because they prevent individuals from being able to work for a living and support themselves. The employer has the burden of proof to show that the restrictions it has placed on the employee are reasonable. ”

Admit it, you’re wrong, I don’t expect you will, as Karen’s rarely do, but you’re wrong and look foolish because of it.

No non-compete is going to stand up to the point of starving you out. They have never been THAT powerful, and are even weaker when the employer is the one instigating the separation.


60 posted on 12/28/2021 5:04:46 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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