Posted on 04/12/2022 7:34:06 PM PDT by ganeemead
Ritteer claims the war is basically over and is in a mopping-up phase.
Aside from the totally wretched ethics of the entire business, the US siding with Nazis against Christians, there is a question of the impact this war will have on Western economies. The war will leave Russia in control of all the main choke points of the world's food systems. The idea of Breadline-Joe Biden sanctioning Russia by denying them Western financial services is beyond ridiculous, i.e. did you ever try to put katsup or barbeque sauce on a financial service and EAT it??
Russia is sanction-proof;Russia, China, and India have pooled their resources and created a super alternate economy with its own financial and banking services. The people who are going to suffer here are you and me.
And to you, I’d say a 1991 absolute agreement to disarm is better than a 2000 year old Roman/Israel war of attrition..
But hey, you can say one if God’s rule, so that makes it ok. And that’s even if I don’t think you’re just trolling
Sir, it’s been laid out to you and others what the situation was and why Putin carried out his response. Replaying it for the thousandth time won’t magically change your mindset.
Common sense will tell you when 95% of the bad guys support one side, it’s probably a good bet you don’t go with them. If seeing the players on Zelensky’s side in wanting that corrupt regime kept in place doesn’t answer any and all questions as to which side is in the wrong, nothing else will.
No, you can say Ukraine had it coming, but that doesn’t make it so. You’re just dreaming if you think supporting something means you support them totally as well.
You can’t support it, it’s just dust.
What you want and what you will get aren’t the same. You say you don’t want war, but in responding to Putin to restore this corrupt globalist Soros-puppet Zelensky regime means that’s EXACTLY what you will get.
A person who wants lots of fatty foods and candy doesn’t WANT to get fat, but when he consumes all that garbage, that’s what will happen.
You have a very old, and weird, ideology. It’s sad to see that, but I can’t sit by and watch it without calling you out.
Russia is not the USSR. Putin is not a Communist hell-bent on forcing that sick ideology on the world. As wardaddy said, this is not 1954. But Soros does, and he's not Putin's puppetmaster. He's the puppetmaster of Zelensky and one of the puppetmaster's of the pedophile illegally occupying the White House.
"I’m not that invested in the outcome."
You obviously are deeply emotionally invested in the outcome, because you are clearly enraged on this subject in righteous fury against Putin. So much so that you want to trigger WW3 (and spare me the "I'm against it", because actions have consequences, sir). These ARE the consequences.
"That you have to defend putin and russia for screwing up europe."
How had Putin screwed up Europe ? Europe is already screwed up due to decades of squishy leftist leadership of their own accord, many of whom had actual Soviet sympathies (until the Communist crash in Russia, now they hate the ex-Communist country).
Your fist few things about putin being a commie aren’t relevant. I simply meant that he wanted back the old land.
The, to simplify it, you’re saying that I’m pro-nulear war is I’m against the Ukraine invasion.
Then you justify the invasion, yet again, for pro-Russian agitprop.
Whatever was done in 1991 was half-baked. Those individual states were using their Soviet-drawn boundaries to flee the USSR and declare themselves nations before any of that could truly be sorted out. I had worries at the time it would be a mistake, and as it turned out, I was right.
Ukraine also had 3 decades to demonstrate that it could become a productive and successful “nation” in its own right, and it simply hasn’t. But then again, it never was one.
I don’t have to say Ukraine had it coming. Zelensky made that a reality. His people, sadly, paid the price for it.
So they deserved to be invaded and conquered for their own good? I knew someone from Minsk that knew their best reality would be an invasion and takeover by the USA.
You know, you could justify invading Poland too with your line of thought.
I’m glad you admit it that you think Zelensky winning make this invasion justified.
My ideology is Christian first. Conservative Nationalist second. Anti-globalist/Derp State, anti-sodomarchy, anti-degeneracy, anti-corruption. Anti-everything the left has given us over the past 125+ years, including their never-ending wars with millions of deaths and billions of people who’ve suffered.
That the prior post somehow you find baffling when it is outright common sense and reason and that you must “call it out” begs the question, one you have yet to answer, what is your ideology ? Because your disordered thinking and illogic are the hallmarks of leftism, and that comes from the father of lies (hint: not Putin, but it has 5 letters).
Now you’re calling me a satanist? I’ve seen it all from you loons.
Look up my posts and threads. I had 1000+ posts exposing Ted Cruz as a liar, and promoting Donald Trump, from the very start of Trump's campaign. I got hate PMs and gigantic threads just bashing and insulting me as a fake conservative for challenging Saint Cruz.
And Cruz isn't even my first foray in pissing people off around here.
You invoked the USSR. The problem is too many people still believe that it is. It isn't. All of the boundaries within the old Soviet Union, once it collapsed, should've been redrawn along ethnic lines. They weren't. That was a huge mistake, and that's how we end up with countless civil wars around the globe. And this is another example of what is essentially a civil war.
"The, to simplify it, you’re saying that I’m pro-nulear war (if) I’m against the Ukraine invasion."
You want to defend the present corrupt Ukrainian regime that has brought down the force of Russia on its people and drive the latter out. You cannot do that without risking a nuclear war if foreign interests intercede. What part of that don't you get ? You want to have sympathy for the Ukrainian citizenry caught in the middle ? I don't fault you or anyone else for that. I feel sorry for them, too. But they got sold out by their own corrupt President. We can't help them by restoring a corrupt regime in Kyiv. We can, however, make things even worse and do what Zelensky demands.
Again, what does Zelesnky demand lol. The return to 1991 borders? Or the otherthow of Putin? What justifies even in the most obscure way was the invasion done?
We’re going in circles.
Minsk ? So now you want us to not only invade Ukraine but Belarus, too ? This keeps getting better and better.
As for Poland, your execrable obvious Hitler-Stalin insinuations aside, Poland is a grown-up state with grown-up serious leaders. It’s not Ukraine. That’s why it’s not in shambles, nor has been sold out by its excellent Christian Conservative Nationalist leaders.
Ritter’s right. As usual. Best commentator on the issue.
But the reality denialists will keep.... denying.
The CIA and State Department are determined to hav another 20 year proxy war, regardless the cost. It’s not them paying for it, and nobody ever holds them accountable.
Cut their budgets in half!
Ritter’s right. As usual. Best commentator on the issue.
But the reality denialists will keep.... denying.
The CIA and State Department are determined to hav another 20 year proxy war, regardless the cost. It’s not them paying for it, and nobody ever holds them accountable.
Cut their budgets in half!
Big problem with this is that Ukraine's ardent defense of its identity and freedom clearly defines it as a nation. You are just listening to Russian bullshit pretending it is a puppet of the US or "run by Nazis and massively corrupt."
Look at Zelenskyy going around the world and pissing people off, even shunning the German pricks who for years coddled and appeased Russia, and even blocked weapons to Ukraine and NATO membership as far back as 2008.
But you guys are either (1) trapped in Q-tard bullshit, (2) closet totalitarians and actual racists (I've been racially insulted multiple times as a "beaner," called "Juan," etc), or (3) so locked into this demented way of thinking where you're only allowed to oppose anything Biden is involved in, even if Biden is himself slow walking and appeasing Russia while just mouthing off good.
Your perspectives are utterly warped and you have allowed yourselves to be taken in by Russian BS and freaks and creeps like Steve Bannon--another grifter--and the Liberaltarian Tucker Carlson who thinks "America First" means suck off a totalitarian regime. Ronald Reagan would not have sucked up to Russia.
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