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Trump seems to get it wrt Ukraine
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Posted on 04/19/2022 3:12:35 PM PDT by ganeemead


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
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Donald Trump plainly has access to real information like this.He understands that Ukraine is losing this conflict and losing it badly.
1 posted on 04/19/2022 3:12:35 PM PDT by ganeemead
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So, according to certain actors on the FR since DJT isn’t in the bag for the Ukraine then he must be a Putinista. Who knew DJT was really Putin’s guy after all?


2 posted on 04/19/2022 3:18:42 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: ganeemead

This Russian at the link has some views on Putin and I think he’s right. If so, then the West is totally misreading what’s going on. Putin sees himself AS RUSSIA. An insult to Putin is an insult to Russia. Louie the Fourteenth said, “”L’État, c’est moi” - The State? I am the State (Carlyle’s rendering into English)”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT7W4ER7KFo


3 posted on 04/19/2022 3:19:15 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: ganeemead

People with talk radio shows don’t understand it either. They think politicans who want to secure our border are the problem and think going to gun shows and mailing a bunch of guns to Ukraine is going to fix everything.


4 posted on 04/19/2022 3:20:48 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Gen.Blather

Yuliya Latynina has the same reputation in Russia as Hanoi Jane in the US.


5 posted on 04/19/2022 3:24:22 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: ganeemead
Trump's statement does not make sense.

This war is about the long term, not the short term. Whoever wins will have control over these disputed areas for decades. For Ukrainian particular, the combination of surrendering a bunch of its territory and not being permitted to join a defensive military alliance means it is likely just a matter of time until Russia rearms, retools, and moves to gobble up the rest of the country. As Putin himself has stated publicly, he does not believe Ukraine is even a legitimate country or has a right to exist. So the Ukrainians uses as ultimately a war for national survival.

In other words, Ukraine rightly does not believe that Putin would abide by any agreements that were reached. Any security guarantees made by Russia would not be worth the paper on which they were printed. Given that, they have no real incentive to agree to Russian terms.

6 posted on 04/19/2022 3:25:35 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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There have been discussions between Russia and the Ukraine and they went nowhere. What sort of deal would Trump propose?


7 posted on 04/19/2022 3:26:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ganeemead

Trump is right in line with Noam Chomsky: Ukrainians need to submit to genocide.


8 posted on 04/19/2022 3:29:15 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: ganeemead

I get that this is Trump’s statement but linking it back to the La Rouche PAC is not a good look.


9 posted on 04/19/2022 3:32:55 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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This is how responsible, moral leader would be handling this situation.

Those that agree with the Biden regime and want to continue to have Ukraine fight until tens of thousands die and the country is the equivalent of a parking lot just to stick to Russia are evil.

The Biden regime and globalists WANTED this war. They hoped to destroy with it. They failed. And, it's time to the humane thing, save lives, preserve what is left of the western part of the country and stop using Ukraine to poke the Russian bear.

10 posted on 04/19/2022 3:37:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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FAIL. Trump said Putin was committing genocide.


11 posted on 04/19/2022 3:37:24 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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Maybe the reason they believe Russia won’t honor any agreements they sign with Ukraine is because Ukraine itself didn’t honor the Minsk agreements they signed with Russia in 2014 and 2015. 🤣


12 posted on 04/19/2022 3:38:02 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon!)
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Actually, they went somewhere last month when Ukraine made multiple concessions to stop the war. Then DC, the EU, and NATO heard about the agreement and made Ukraine walk it all back.


13 posted on 04/19/2022 3:40:47 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon!)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Yes, but did he say it loud enough to appease the FR Neocon keyboard brigade?


14 posted on 04/19/2022 3:41:03 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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What sort of deal would Trump propose?

I don't get that either. The combination of major territorial concessions and a prohibition on entering into a defensive Alliance is a death sentence for Ukraine. And Putin is currently unwilling to settle for anything less than that. It's going to take one side being a clear winner or loser on the battlefield before peace is possible.

15 posted on 04/19/2022 3:44:55 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: ganeemead

Scott Ritter - now LaRouchePAC

Extraordinary.


16 posted on 04/19/2022 3:46:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ganeemead

Trump ran on America first meaning less foreign entanglements, so I would have been surprised if he thought we should be getting involved in the Ukraine conflict.


17 posted on 04/19/2022 3:46:54 PM PDT by jimwatx
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I got no problem with The Presidents statement.
I didn't like the genocide comment yesterday. What I have learned about Trump is to give him 48 hours to "clarify" his statements. Smart Guy, and will always be my President, and always have my Vote. Let ‘em fight it out until someone cries Uncle.
NO U.S. involvement, and I'm good with it.
18 posted on 04/19/2022 3:48:24 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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Russia is destroying the country they would have to rebuild. It makes no sense.


19 posted on 04/19/2022 3:49:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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Russia/Putin want to seize parts of Ukraine (if not all of it) and they want to kill/enslave/oppress the ethnic Ukrainians whom they’ve demonized as Nazis.

Not sure where the room for compromise is here.


20 posted on 04/19/2022 3:49:49 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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