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Organic BS-The science just doesn't add up.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | May 18, 2022 | John Stossel

Posted on 05/18/2022 6:47:44 AM PDT by SJackson

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Organic BS

The science just doesn't add up.Wed May 18, 2022

John Stossel

Activists have convinced Americans that "organic" food is better — healthier, better-tasting, life-extending.

As a result, poor parents feel guilty if they can't afford to pay $7 for organic eggs.

This misinformation is spread by people like Alexis Baden-Mayer, political director of the Organic Consumers Association. She says organic food is clearly better: "The nutrition is a huge difference."

But it isn't. Studies find little difference.

If you still want to pay more for what's called "organic," that's your right. But what's outrageous is that this group of scientifically illiterate people convinced the government to force all of us to pay more.

Congress has ruled that GMOs (genetically modified food) must be labeled. Busybodies from both parties supported the idea.

Politicians like Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said, "It doesn't cost any more. This idea that ... this ... will raise food prices is ridiculous."

It's McGovern who is ridiculous. The U.S. Department of Agriculture says the GMO labelling will cost from $598 million to $3.5 billion.

"But the public wants GMOs labelled," say advocates. "Surveys show that."

Of course they do.

Ask people if DNA in food should be labelled, and most say yes. Yet DNA is in everything.

Polling is a stupid way to make policy.

The idea of modifying a plant's DNA may sound creepy, but people have cross-bred plants and animals for years.

"The corn we have today, there's nothing natural about that," I say to Baden-Mayer in my new video. "What native people ate, we'd find inedible."

Baden-Mayer laughs at that.

"You're saying indigenous corn is somehow inferior because you've seen it dried and it has tiny little kernels?" she asks.

"Yes," I reply. I've tried to eat it.

"That's another myth of the industry," she responds. "People like you believe that."

I sure do. I also believe it's good that genetic modification lets us alter nature more precisely, gene by gene. That's better and safer than the more haphazard crossbreeding that's been done for years.

This new precision lets scientists make plants that save lives.

In poor parts of the world, half a million people per year go blind due to lack of vitamin A in their diets. Many die.

Scientists have created a new genetically modified rice that contains vitamin A. This "golden rice" could save those people.

"I've heard of golden rice," sneers Baden-Mayer. "That was a project that all of the chemical companies invested in."

I sneer right back.

"Golden rice hasn't succeeded partly because scientifically ignorant fools like you convinced the world that it's harmful!"

"I knew at a certain point you would resort to name-calling," she replies. "But it doesn't change the science on this."

Sadly, in some countries, people listen to advocates like her and believe that Americans want to poison them. One group of GMO fearful protesters invaded a golden rice field in the Philippines, ripping up all the plants.

Thousands will die or go blind, needlessly, because the organic cult spreads misinformation.

At least educated skeptics now understand that they were wrong about GMOs.

The New York Times points out that many "quietly walked back their opposition" to GMOs. "The science is clear," says a former opponent in The Wall Street Journal. "They're perfectly safe."

The Philippines recently approved golden rice.

But the hardcore zealots will never be convinced.

Baden-Mayer claims GMOs cause cancer.

"We're using more GMOs than ever," I point out. "There's less cancer now. Life spans keep increasing."

"Compared to when, 100 years ago?" she scoffs.

Absolutely, yes. We live about 25 years longer than Americans did 100 years ago. Even compared to 10 or 20 years ago, we live longer.

The National Academy of Sciences calls GMOs safe. So do the World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Food and Drug Administration and the USDA.

But no amount of science will convince people like Baden-Mayer. "The GMO issue just has not been investigated enough," she says.

Organic promoters are wrong on the costs and wrong on the science.

Sadly, they've won the battle of public opinion.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alexisbadenmayer; gmo; goldenrice; johnstossel
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1 posted on 05/18/2022 6:47:44 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I tend to eat inorganic food, apparently.


2 posted on 05/18/2022 6:48:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SJackson
Most cornfields are doused in Round-up weed killer.

I prefer that my corn is not.

Is this an unscientific concern?

3 posted on 05/18/2022 7:05:26 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: SJackson

Stossel fails to ask the only pertinent question - WHY is the food being genetically modified?

Answer - Most grain crops are being modified to resist being killed off by glyphosphate (Round Up), so they can spray the ever loving snot out of the fields to kill off the weeds.

Residues from that are damaging to the intestinal lining, and might cause cancer. But not to worry, EPA scientists assure us that the although 59% of crops tested are positive for residue, the levels are harmless. Maybe even as harmless as the COVID vaccines. The Government would never lie to you, would they?

https://www.fda.gov/food/pesticides/questions-and-answers-glyphosate


4 posted on 05/18/2022 7:15:22 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: G Larry

If you haven’t tested the hypothesis, or at least studied tests by others, then by definition, yes. Doesn’t by itself make it unreasonable, but it is unscientific.


5 posted on 05/18/2022 7:16:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I’ve studied tests by others, but thanks for playing.


6 posted on 05/18/2022 7:28:53 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: SJackson
Big AG's version of organic farming

Bare dirt monocrop

Big AG also got a lot of organic rules changed because their people rotate in and out of the USDA. Just like Monsanto got GMO approved by rotating people in and out of the FDA. All fedgov agencies are like that.

7 posted on 05/18/2022 7:31:33 AM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: SJackson
The National Academy of Sciences calls GMOs safe. So do the World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Food and Drug Administration and the USDA.

After COVID, does it make anyone feel better that these associations and agencies approve of something? The FDA just yesterday approved of booster jabs for 5-11 year old kids.

8 posted on 05/18/2022 7:34:14 AM PDT by Pollard (Don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. CA Fitts)
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To: Go_Raiders
...so they can spray the ever loving snot out of the fields to kill off the weeds.

Hmm. Why do they want to kill off the weeds? Perhaps to increase the crop yield per acre? To feed more people? To increase efficiency of the farm/field? This is a good thing. More food from the same crop means less hunger and more people being fed at lower prices.

9 posted on 05/18/2022 7:40:20 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: SJackson

“But the public wants GMOs labelled,” say advocates. “Surveys show that.”

I’d prefer to know what I’m buying, before I buy it, and getting what I planned to get, after I bought it. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.


10 posted on 05/18/2022 7:49:55 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: ShadowAce
What about the herbicide residue, and the harm it causes?

Sure, big AG feeds more ppl, but if the residue remains, you could posit that big AG poisons more ppl too.

11 posted on 05/18/2022 7:52:45 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: spankalib

You don’t wash your fruits/vegetables as recommended?


12 posted on 05/18/2022 7:54:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: SJackson

When my son was a kid he once asked me about the organic products in the grocery store. I told him it was the same as the regular stuff except it just contained more rat feces and insect fragments and cost more.


13 posted on 05/18/2022 7:54:56 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: SJackson

I wonder how many organic food zealots sneer at creation science. Yet the belief that what’s “natural” is automatically best to eat smacks of exactly that - creationism The food unaltered by man in the most perfect for man to consume.

There’s no reason why a vegetable, if its goal is to optimize itself for survival and reproducibility, as Darwin teaches, is simultaneously going to make itself as most perfectly agreeable to humans, for their own consumption, as possible.


14 posted on 05/18/2022 7:56:40 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
The natural stuff is on the left. Those silly natives of our hemisphere selectively bred for kernal size. DNA modification of their time.


15 posted on 05/18/2022 8:03:59 AM PDT by SJackson (nations that are barren of liberties are also barren of groceries, Louis Fisher)
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To: SJackson

You can’t debate a greenie. It is like debating religion.


16 posted on 05/18/2022 8:06:20 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: G Larry; ShadowAce
No, but that's a function of the use of Round-up. Don't think the author is saying the term organic should be banned. You have that choice. As to organic being more nutritious or tastes better there's not much to back that up.
17 posted on 05/18/2022 8:11:46 AM PDT by SJackson (nations that are barren of liberties are also barren of groceries, Louis Fisher)
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To: SJackson

Organic eating is not about more or better nutrients. That’s a straw man, one promulgated by both sides of the argument.

It’s about not consuming all the chemicals they use on commercial crops...from roundup to pesticides etc.

Unaddressed by the article.


18 posted on 05/18/2022 8:20:04 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ShadowAce

The hardest job in the world is being a farmer...

Those that eat the most refuse to see that.


19 posted on 05/18/2022 8:31:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: rightwingcrazy
You can't know that unless you grow your own food or buy it locally from a place you've visited and know and trust the farmer.

Any food purchased anywhere else, there is no way to “know” how or from what seed stock it was grown.

Anything industrially processed is poison. Anything commercially labeled is bullchit.

Anything shipped is aged beyond all belief.

I grow pretty much all our own food. The wife processes it all. We KNOW what we eat.

20 posted on 05/18/2022 8:35:36 AM PDT by Badboo (Ukraine is the progs new Covid. Russia gets to administer the vaccine.)
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