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The Only Relevant Question about Abortion: Get this one right, and the whole issue is solved
American Thinker ^ | 05/30/2022 | Charlie Johnston

Posted on 05/30/2022 8:25:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It can be maddening and baffling to engage in debate with left-wing activists. Their love of ad hominem arguments and non sequiturs would make a sophist blush. Their stated principles shift during an argument like a kaleidoscope. That doesn't even begin to take into account their shrieking rage and cosplay costumes.

Yet on the abortion question, all their histrionics are designed to obscure the one fundamental question that must be answered before any further discussion can take place: is the fetus a human person or is he/she not? If he is, he is entitled to all the protections all other human persons have.

As a young lawyer riding the circuit in Illinois, Abraham Lincoln was often an enigma to his colleagues. He seemed frequently to concede too many points to his opponent, yet he prevailed. His genius was to find the fundamental issue, then grab hold of it like a bulldog with a rag, refusing to let go or be distracted from it. Pro-lifers should adopt Lincoln's strategy and hold fast to it.

Almost all the arguments abortion advocates advance are rhetorical variations of Three-Card Monte. The aim is to draw your attention away from where the action really is. Though they have a full set of tools of distraction, there is a primary argument, usually accompanied by three smaller ones. Each of these is facilitated by a consistent sleight-of-hand trick.

The big distraction is to call abortion a woman's "right." This both misunderstands what a right is and misapplies it to the specific case. Under natural law theory (which is the basis of our Bill of Rights), all rights precede the existence of the state. Rights are endowed to each person by virtue of his existence — and the state has no authority over them.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: abortion; ketanjibrownjackson; paulryan; personhood; plannedparenthood; righttolife; roevswade; scotus; wisconsin
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To: Sacajaweau
In between, there is a human being with 42 chromosomes,

You'd better correct your understanding of this. A human being has 23 pairs of chromosomes, or 46 total, my FRiend, not 42.

One of the pair determines whether the human is male or female, one or tyhe other. There is NO in-between, NO transgenderism reality, even when a reproductive genetic error occurs and a hermaphroditic condition develops.

Imagined "homosexual" or "transgenderistic" preferences are both unnatural improper induced mental development without confidence in one's sex-dependent roles in a predetermined naturally ordered society.

In any case, this is not a feature to be considered when accepting or denying the right of a pre-born child to be treated with full regards as an individual with a human soul, even in the womb.

21 posted on 05/30/2022 11:56:22 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Oops..yes....46...not 42


22 posted on 05/31/2022 2:26:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Their argument is that a fetus is just “a clump of cells” or at the very least not an individual human being until it pops out of the womb. Literally. That’s why abortions at 8 months are just fine according to them. Viability outside the womb doesn’t matter in their eyes. The US is about the only country in which late term abortions are allowed.

Even Europeans recoil in horror at 3rd trimester abortions. Almost all European countries only allow it in the first trimester.


23 posted on 05/31/2022 2:39:05 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

If you want to make a pro-abortion person’s head explode, just say this:

The real issue is that the unborn needs life support from the mother in order to survive, and she does not want to provide it. She asserts the right to refuse to supply life support if she doesn’t feel like it. She does not grant that the unborn has a right to life at her unwilling expense.

Ask:
Are you ok with extending this principle to welfare recipients and “refugees? Why not?

If a woman has a right to decline to become a mother, isn’t it discrimination to deny men that same right? Shouldn’t child support be voluntary?


24 posted on 05/31/2022 3:55:42 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you want to make a pro-abortion person’s head explode, just say this:

The real issue is that the unborn needs life support from the mother in order to survive, and she does not want to provide it. She asserts the right to refuse to supply life support if she doesn’t feel like it. She does not grant that the unborn has a right to life at her unwilling expense.

Ask:
Are you ok with extending this principle to welfare recipients and “refugees? Why not?

If a woman has a right to decline to become a mother, isn’t it discrimination to deny men that same right? Shouldn’t child support be voluntary?


25 posted on 05/31/2022 3:55:42 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SeekAndFind

My Tagline.


26 posted on 05/31/2022 4:29:53 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“There is a moment of ‘birth’ and a moment of death.”

That’s the pro-abortion stance. The truth is “a moment of CONCEPTION and a moment of death”.


27 posted on 05/31/2022 4:33:45 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Jesus took my burden and left me with a song.)
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I understand what you're saying but....I see Conception as the process and "birth" as the moment that process is complete.

You say birth is leaving the womb and entering the world according to....as if that baby in the womb was not part of the world.

28 posted on 05/31/2022 5:51:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
I've had this debate with wing nuts in the past. They believe a “fetus” is a parasite until the day it is born.
29 posted on 05/31/2022 5:58:39 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.i)
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To: SeekAndFind

Make it illegal to use aborted fetus for research or sale. If an abortion is performed, the material from the death must be destroyed with no financial gain.

The resale for research of abortions must become illegal for US abortions.

Make abortion non-profitable and it ends, period.


30 posted on 05/31/2022 6:14:45 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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