[dsrtsage]

They also allow wind farms to “genocide” bald eagles and condors

[albie]

I drive by ethanol only corn crops all the time. Not edible either.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

On top of that, ethanol only has 60% of the BTUs of gasoline, so the pollution per BTU is far worse.

[blackdog]

Anything that burns our food supply is something that bureaucrats are all for. Food is the preferred weapon to control the citizens.

[AZJeep]

I remember the descriptions of the horrors of great depression.
The worst was that, while people were starving, the ruthless capitalists were burning grain in locomotives.
Now, we are burning grain in cars!
A lot more of it.

[G Larry]

Ethanol is another vote buying fraud aimed at farmers.

It reduces gas mileage to the same extent it reduces emissions.

So, the pollutants per mile remain unchanged AND it costs more.

[Tell It Right]

The term is RINs: Renewable Identification Numbers. Even though it sounds like some kind of Borg designation, it amounts to oil refineries having to pay a carbon tax (without calling it a carbon tax) for every gallon of gas refined unless it's ethanol.

Part of Brandon's push to increase the ethanol mandate from 10% to 15% (though I think he backed down from that) was to increase this bullcrap carbon tax.

Refiners offset some of this fee by buying bullcrap carbon credits "created" by Dim companies like Tesla. This is why Tesla gets more profit from selling "carbon credits" than from selling anything else. It's also why Musk is still pushing for more carbon taxes while also saying the west needs to keep using oil and natural gas (hey gubment: allow energy to thrive and punish them harder for it so they have to buy more indulgences from Tesla).

I read that the RIN carbon tax translates to about 75¢ extra in the price of gas per gallon paid at the pump, and that if Brandon had succeeded in making the ethanol mandate 15% it'd be $1/gallon. And that's before the other taxes per gallon paid when you buy gasoline.

[ConservativeInPA]

I don’t care about carbon emissions. That’s a complete distraction from fundamental critical thinking. Ethanol causes so many other problems. It’s a scam.

[metmom]

The government makes everything it touches worse.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

The average ethanol plant chuffed out 1,187 metric tons of carbon emissions per million gallons of fuel capacity in 2020, the latest year data is available. The average oil refinery, by contrast, produced 533 metric tons of carbon.

Regardless, there is virtually NO CO2 in the atmosphere.

[redgolum]

CO2 is produced by fermentation.

In ethanol plants, it is compressed and sold. When I played in that sphere, it was a very valuable side product.

We did NOT vent it. It was pure stuff as long as the fermenters worked well

[redgolum]

Having seen these studies before, they are flawed.

Using the logic in the study, all our wars in the Middle East would be counted against oil production.

Remember, if the Middle East didn’t have oil, we would not care about them at all.

[tomkat]

Corn is for cows, not cars !

(f'n watermelon marxists .. spit)