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Secession movements gain traction in US amid deepening political rifts: 'A long-standing problem'
Fox News ^ | 12/2/22 | Jon Brown

Posted on 12/03/2022 10:38:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Grassroots movements of Americans seeking a political divorce from their fellow citizens have recently gained traction amid deepening cultural rifts, according to multiple figures involved with secessionist organizations who spoke to Fox News Digital.

Such movements have emerged in every region of the U.S. and vary in their goals. Some aim for entire states to leave the union to form a new country, while others endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states. All agree that the disagreements with their political opponents have grown intractable.

"We're at a point, I think, where America is not necessarily in the balance, but the institution known as the United States is in the balance," Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM), told Fox News Digital.

Miller's organization endeavors to see Texas leave the union and revert to the sovereign republic it was from 1836, when it broke from Mexico, until it was annexed by the U.S. in 1845.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; constitution; crime; cwii; secession
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To: Sarcazmo
If they employ a digital currency, none of this even matters. They would have to send no one after anyone, they would simply remove certain people from being able to participate in society.

Couldn't the several States simply issue their own commodity-backed currency? I don't see why not.

It seems a rather straightforward proposition to me - the feds issue currency backed by the rapidly-diminishing "full faith and credit" of the United States, in both paper and computer code, while the States issue had currency in the form of gold/silver/copper or paper backed by commodities like wheat, timber, fertilizer, and LNG from our abundant shale resources etc.

The relative value of the two currencies is obvious. The States could pull that off without too much trouble, driving out the Fed's worthless paper and computer digits.

Where do I err?

101 posted on 12/03/2022 2:25:58 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: Boogieman
Oh, I don’t know, only the most fearsome standing army in the world.

But can the Feds count on the rank and file when SHTF? I mean to actually fire on their own people? I don't think so.

102 posted on 12/03/2022 2:28:16 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: robowombat
Military force to include ‘foreign volunteers’ (Lincoln made extensive use of that one also), UN Volunteer foreign militaries units (Bengla Desh, Pakistan, China, Cuba we pay as well as the ‘new’ National Volunteers recruited from Black Thugs Matter, Antifa and street gangs from BLUE City, you know the Baltimore Blues, the Chicago Black Panthers. Also lots of drone and air strikes., and DHS ‘National Police Corps’

I think that few would want to die for the Democrats. Besides, what would the Feds pay their mercenaries with? Digital dollars backed by the "full faith and credit" of a fracturing United States?,P. They'd all leave them to die, IMHO.

103 posted on 12/03/2022 2:32:35 PM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: Thilly Thailor

I don’t see it. I think they have no chance against us.
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Secession will never happen because our Federal Government and its foreign allies have command of the militaries, and there’s no doubt in my mind that troops would be deployed to CRUSH any uprising that threatened violence. Hell, there’s people in this country being held in D.C. lockups WITHOUT DUE PROCESS for simply standing with Trump signs on the steps of the Capitol on 1/6/21!


104 posted on 12/03/2022 2:39:45 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: joma89

I want nothing to do with anyone who votes for a democrat. They simply want that democrat to then use government to hurt me.
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I could have posted that statement myself without changing a single word!


105 posted on 12/03/2022 2:41:32 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Besides, they’re deep red.
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Except for Austin and the thousands of “citizens” from south of the border who are kept well fed and cared for by the SNAP program and other welfare programs financed by taxpayers.


106 posted on 12/03/2022 2:49:34 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; joma89

Since we share the same political philosophy, question: I plow snow, a person who has huge pro-dem/anti-Trump signs on their property during the political season asked me to plow them this winter. What would you do?


107 posted on 12/03/2022 2:50:56 PM PST by stevio (.)
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To: dragnet2

Great Risk is required for Great Gain.

As a Jewish Chaplain once told me “my people have been oppressed and murdered for 5 thousand years, we have not quit, we have not surrendered; and neither should you”!

I never forgot that and have tried to live by it ever since.

That Chaplains name was VICTOR M. SOLOMON; Captain United States Air Force, the year was 1972.
I was just a lowly grunt in the US Marine Corps and a Catholic to boot.


108 posted on 12/03/2022 2:50:57 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: stevio

Plow him in.


109 posted on 12/03/2022 2:54:06 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

😄


110 posted on 12/03/2022 2:56:12 PM PST by stevio (.)
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To: stevio

I would tell them I am booked for the season.


111 posted on 12/03/2022 2:56:15 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

OK. Mexico can have them.


112 posted on 12/03/2022 2:58:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

The US is now continually transforming into a Satanic dystopia where normal people are persecuted and robbed.
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No question about it, and there are very few places left on the planet where one can seek refuge from criminal regimes now in power around the world.


113 posted on 12/03/2022 2:58:37 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: Boogieman
Well, nobody is going to be allowed to secede without a fight,

I thing both parties want a divorce. The "whole thing" is the whole problem. They need their own space and freedom lovers need their own space. Common sense.

114 posted on 12/03/2022 3:00:56 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Thilly Thailor

And the thing the Feds don’t seem to comprehend about their “most fearsome standing army in the world” is that all of those men and women in uniform; they have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, cousins, nephews, and children who look to them for protection——NOT OPRESSION!

Will they fire on their fellow citizens, I don’t know.
If I were one of the people in power today I am not sure I would want to take that chance.

My Oath was to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, not some political party!

I HAVE NEVER BEEN RELEASED FROM THAT OATH!


115 posted on 12/03/2022 3:02:30 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: joma89; MayflowerMadam

Since the business is “and sons” They suggest charging more than normal, and if they flinch, do as MM suggested and plow them in.


116 posted on 12/03/2022 3:03:30 PM PST by stevio (.)
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To: robowombat
If Texas did seccede the very large woke army force at Ft Hood (Sam Brinton?) will quickly deply to capture Austin and Dallas Ft Worth etc.

That is BS. There are not enough troops to put one big city under marshal law. Texas could have 2 million armed troops over night. 100,000 federal troops can't enfoce mashal law on Texas. They wold be cremated. Plus half would defect to the other side.

117 posted on 12/03/2022 3:04:37 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: 5th MEB

I see stupid Americans, even though the huge majority no long trust government at ANY level, yet they continue voting and supporting professional career government politicians. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

Just keep the lies and lip service coming and Americans are good to go.

Btw, the Jews rolled over and boarded the death trains using their own two feet. They quit and surrendered by the millions. Being oppressed and murdered for 5 thousand years is not something I can get on board with.


118 posted on 12/03/2022 3:06:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ealgeone
You'd still have to deal with liberalism within the Red states.

Secession doesn't end democracy. For example Isreal lets all of her citizens vote regardless.

119 posted on 12/03/2022 3:06:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: stevio

I would look at them and say; well your obviously democrat, therefore LAZY and FAT, so here’s a shovel, now get out there and get some exercise!

If you have a heart attack just dial 911, to bad that streets are all buried in 8 foot drifts.

snicker-snicker-snicker


120 posted on 12/03/2022 3:09:02 PM PST by 5th MEB
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