Posted on 12/03/2022 10:38:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
“Oh, I don’t know, only the most fearsome standing army in the world.”
And Air Force. Reconnaissance from the air and subsequent strikes is no match for even armed people.
Thank you for referencing that article Roman_War_Criminal.
As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.
If Democratic and RINO state lawmakers were brought up to speed with the Supreme Court's clarification of the federal government's constitutionally limited power to appropriate taxes, then they may agree to the simple amendment to the Constitution mentioned further down.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
If state lawmakers understood that the funding that they regularly receive from the federal government is arguably state revenues that the unconstitutionally big federal government steals from the states by means of unconstitutional taxes indicated by the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above, then they might agree to the following.
Consider that ALL the states can effectively “secede” from the corrupt federal government by ratifying a new amendment to the Constitution that does nothing more than repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popularly elected federal senators) Amendments, arguably little or ideally no discussion required.
Once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped then the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenue (imo) that they can use to increase teacher, police, firefighter salaries for example.
The states can also build and maintain their own infrastructure which the corrupt feds have no express constitutional power to tax and spend for anyway imo.
In fact, respected constitutional experts, including Supreme Court justices, have emphasized that the delegates to the constitutional convention had left the care of the people with states, not the federal government.
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
"Many are the exercises of power reserved to the States [emphasis added] wherein a uniformity of proceeding would be advantageous to all. Such are quarantines, health laws, regulations of the press, banking institutions, training militia, etc., etc." —Thomas Jefferson to James Sullivan, 1807.
"They form a portion of that immense mass of legislation, which embrace every thing in the territory of a state not surrendered to the general government [emphasis added]. Inspection laws, quarantine laws, and health laws, as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state, and others, which respect roads, fences, &c. are component parts of state legislation, resulting from the residuary powers of state sovereignty. No direct power over these is given to congress, and consequently they remain subject to state legislation, though they may be controlled by congress, when they interfere with their acknowledged powers." —Justice Joseph Story, Article I, Section 10, Clause 2, 1833.
From the congressional record, clarification by Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
On the abortion issue: I would leave that out of the equation for now. The country is more anti-abortion than it was 50 years ago and getting moreso all the time. Abortion may be one of the dividing factors as people move around to different states but we are inevitably winning that one slowly but surely.
On the other issues, we are far gone, I agree, but a general feeling of right versus wrong may still prevail.
Signing on to become a member of the United States was never meant to be a suicide pact.
It’s time.
If the fed gov was constrained to the Constitution as written there would be 50 entities who could manage their affairs as they see fit.
The Russians left because the Afghans were executing captives right in the field instead of taking prisoners. Probably there were other differences as well along the same lines. The Russian morals of combat were very much like ours at that time and they couldn’t win that way, so they left.
>The rot is too deep. Heck protecting abortion even won in Kentucky when it was put on the ballot!
The electoral process in the US has been compromised. The elections are fraudulent.
“… endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states.“
Sounds good to me.
The Hawaiians want self rule, but not getting rid of everyone else that actually pays the taxes.
Same situation as when negros in mainland cities are asked if they want to get rid of white people. They panic and say no when they realize they cannot makes things work on their own.
I believe the Texas constitution and terms for their admission to the US, allows them to split up into 7 states.
“Oh, I don’t know, only the most fearsome standing army in the world.”
The army that lost to a bunch of primitive goatherders in Afghanistan?
So, you think that army, which is mainly support MOS, will fight the armed populace?
Air Force planes have to land periodically, and what are you going to do, keep them on fortified airbases?
many of us have kept long range shooting capabilities learned long ago.
Nah..
while others endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states.
Most of the filthy cities need to be "seceded" from the states. Let them form their own state(s).
That's why the right answer is statehood for D.C. And Detroit. And Philadelphia. And Atlanta. And Chicago. And Milwaukee. And Phoenix. And New York City. And Denver...
Many years ago - when I was a democrat - fraud was done I was told about... an accident happened.
Florida was using punch cards for voting and ‘after hours’ the people who didn’t show up to vote were being ‘voted’. (this is how ‘the dead are voted - they never show up)
The way fraud is done with that system is an ice pick is places on the ‘chad spot’ and hit with a hammer. To keep the fraud from being obvious other races are often ‘voted’. Well, one idiot got it wrong and the chad spot for a down ticket Republican was included. AND the guy was elected. Dems were panicked someone would notice the black community had ‘elected’ a Republican - but time went by and no one noticed and the story’s in the dust bin of history....
"Texas v. White, an 1869 Supreme Court decision that ruled unilateral state secession is unconstitutional"
What in the Constitution indicates that?
In 1862, the South Carolina State Legislature voted to nullify the act of entering the Union, an act of the South Carolina State Legislature. Why was that unconstitutional?
The Demonparty have all but locked up America. Going forward they will never again lose any election they feel they can’t lose. They are exactly where they want to be with one exception: the second amendment. There is no way they want any type of secession movement to even remotely gain traction. They need at this point to put down a “sedition “ violently and fast. So they will manufacture one, small enough to control that will justify their slaughter and the ensuing police state.
These animals were cornered with the 2020 election so they went all in and stole it, artlessly and obviously. They know more and more Americans are rejecting their demonstrably insane rule. They have to act before things get out of hand for them. They are illegitimate so there are no moral constraints or concerns. Only, at this point, necessity. They don’t have an army, only the state.
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