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1 posted on 02/12/2023 12:22:09 PM PST by Hojczyk
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2 posted on 02/12/2023 12:26:55 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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The fire can keep you warm for up to six hours.


3 posted on 02/12/2023 12:33:10 PM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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The article makes the point that EV battery capacity is small compared to the size of the grid. So I can reason from the article that charging EV’s has a small impact on grid capacity!


4 posted on 02/12/2023 12:33:41 PM PST by TexasGator
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The energy density of batteries can never come anywhere near that of “fossil” fuels.

If you charged all the existing batteries on Earth and connected them to the global electrical grid, they would be able to power it for an amazing... eleven seconds.


5 posted on 02/12/2023 12:33:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censoprship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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“Here’s the math. Suppose that, on a cold winter’s day in 2050, all 3.5 million EVs >>>”

Here’s the math. There are now over 2 million now and last year about 500k were sold. Sales are increasing each year.

By 2026 we will have 3.5 million EV’s. Author flunks basic math.


6 posted on 02/12/2023 12:41:16 PM PST by TexasGator
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From the article "And what happens if consumers and businesses don’t want their EV batteries drained by the local electric utility? So far, few EV owners are signing up for managed charging programs that allow their local utilities to control when EVs can be charged in exchange for rate reductions. Then again, will EV owners ultimately even have a choice?"

During their summer power crisis California begged their EV owners not the charge their cars. At some point that will become a demand. Then they will ask for EV owners to sell back electricity when the wind fails. Then that will turn into a demand too.

The problem, not mentioned in the article, is that charge cycles are limited to about 1,000. That's 250,000 miles if an the EV range is 250 miles. That's pretty good, but not good if the EV is tasked to discharge into the grid on a regular basis. That will simply shiorten the life of the vehicle.

10 posted on 02/12/2023 12:49:20 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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It was a colossaly stupid idea. Batteries are not efficient and lose power when idle.


11 posted on 02/12/2023 12:50:01 PM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo hoo. )
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on the premise they are ALL CONTINUOUSLY PLUGGED IN...


18 posted on 02/12/2023 1:03:53 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Utilities have rejected the use of Lithium batteries due to their low lifetime. Utilities are not constrained by the energy to weight ratio so it is better to use a different battery technology. Given that, what sense does it make to use a car battery? Another stupid idea.


20 posted on 02/12/2023 1:10:51 PM PST by Dennis M.
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So, right... You can have one EV to drive to the market, another EV to power your home in case of emergency. If you want to actually go someplace just rent an ICE from Hertz I guess.

Gonna need a bigger driveway.


25 posted on 02/12/2023 1:42:15 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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And suppose that improved battery technology means each provides

There's the box in the flow chart that should be labeled "suddenly a miracle happens". My biggest concern is that improved battery technology would cause Guam to tip over. Or something like that.

28 posted on 02/12/2023 1:58:20 PM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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EVs could provide around 15 hours of electricity.

Side note stock up on candles charcoal and Spam until power is back up.


35 posted on 02/12/2023 2:35:54 PM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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Buttplug thinks that’s a great idea.


41 posted on 02/12/2023 3:07:55 PM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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Green means SCAM


42 posted on 02/12/2023 3:26:18 PM PST by butlerweave
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There is a WSJ article this afternoon that references a “think tank” paper from a group in California, that sets out the problems with having everyone switch to EVs. Lack of electrical infrastructure and sources, environmental harm and needed water and other resources to mine the necessary components, and the lack of sufficient cobalt, lithium and other minerals necessary for EV’s. Of course critical thinking people have been pointing out these issues for years now.

Their solution? Move everyone into urban “housing centers” and not allow private transportation or rural living. The peons can walk, bike, or take public transportation to pre-determined locations if they can just be shepherded in to “5 or 15 minutes cities”. I’m sure those that “make the rules” will be exempt from these requirements for they will be living on large acreage plots in mansions surrounded by fencing and guarded by armed security.

Raise your hand if you didn’t see this one coming so I can call you naive!


46 posted on 02/12/2023 3:53:29 PM PST by CFW (old and retired)
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"Using electric vehicles as grid storage blasted as another 'green fantasy'"

I don't believe I would care to shorten the life of my very expensive EV battery on behalf of an incompetent electric company.
48 posted on 02/12/2023 3:57:20 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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This idea assumes that battery charging ports and chargers are bidirectional. I’d bet they are not.


53 posted on 02/12/2023 4:44:09 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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