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Are people still using polls to determine Trump’s electability?
American Thinker ^ | 04/28/2023 | James Swofford

Posted on 04/28/2023 6:56:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There has been a little boomlet recently of talk about how Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is more electable than former President Donald Trump. I have heard this discussion on podcasts, I have read tweets and articles on electability and I have heard electability discussion on talk radio. The genesis of this discussion seems to be a poll of registered voters commissioned by the Wall Street Journal showing DeSantis leads Biden by 3 points, while Trump trails Biden by 3 points.

Ignoring the issue of registered voters rather than likely voters, those are some interesting poll results to some people. At least some people seem to think it indicates something about Donald Trump’s electability. Those people must have short memories.

This is the same Donald Trump who polls said had no chance to win the 2016 presidential election. The winner of the 2016 election was of course Donald Trump. This is the same Donald Trump that polls said was going to be blown out in the 2020 presidential election. That election was so tight the counting dragged on for days until Joe Biden was declared the winner 3 days after the election.

Specifically, in 2016 the final Real Clear Politics average of polls had the Trump vote 3.9 percentage points lower than his final tally. Similarly, in 2020 the final Real Clear Politics average of polls had the Trump vote 3.6 percentage points lower than the final total. (One is welcome to argue and maybe would be right that the 2020 vote totals are suspect, but for sake of this discussion I am ignoring that.) Even more specifically the last NBC/Wall Street Journal poll in 2016 had Trump trailing by 5-percentage points while their last poll in 2020 had Biden with a 10-percentage points behind!

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; electability; oyveyron; paulryansboy; polls; trump; trump2024
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So, polls have not been a reliable indicator for President Trump’s electoral strength in the past, particularly polls by the Wall Street Journal. Why then would anyone view them as a reliable indicator of Mr. Trump’s electability this time around? NBC is not credited with them this recent poll, so maybe their polls will be more accurate, but maybe not. Who knows?
1 posted on 04/28/2023 6:56:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I know a number of persons who will vote TRUMP or no one. Me included


2 posted on 04/28/2023 7:00:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

Polls are useless now that fraud has been institutionalized and perfected. There will be no republican elected president in 2024 and beyond unless things change, which they won’t.


3 posted on 04/28/2023 7:00:50 AM PDT by Skeptical constituent
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To: ridesthemiles

I am one of those persons also TRUMP or no one PERIOD!!


4 posted on 04/28/2023 7:03:15 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat; ridesthemiles

Ditto


5 posted on 04/28/2023 7:04:34 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: SeekAndFind

this arguement is stupid.

The democrats are right now flying illegals into every contested county in the country and then stuffing big cities with illegals. they have a whole machine designed to get these people ballots and then harvest their ballots.

I’ve seen pundits talk about arizona nevada or pennsylvania as being swing states. they’re not. democrats sealed that door in 2022. they will be stuffed with illegals and their votes will be harvested. dems will do so with abandon because they control the state voting machinery.

There is no path to the presidency for any republican


6 posted on 04/28/2023 7:05:40 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ridesthemiles

But, what do you think of polls?


7 posted on 04/28/2023 7:05:42 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

FJB will win no matter what. Heels up will take over win he kicks the bucket due to dementia during his second term. She’ll get the rest of FJB’s term and two of her own. The election fraud is real.


8 posted on 04/28/2023 7:06:02 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: SeekAndFind

the worst part about it is that the republicans don’t seem interested in recognizing the problem much less finding a solution to it.


9 posted on 04/28/2023 7:06:30 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: Skeptical constituent

“There will be no republican elected president in 2024 and beyond unless things change, which they won’t.”

Unfortunately you are right on the money. The frog has done been boiled. Reality is we are now operating behind enemy lines.


10 posted on 04/28/2023 7:07:13 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re using lawfare to make sure he isn’t even on the ballot. Remember, states have nearly unlimited control over elections, and only a handful will determine the next presidential election.


11 posted on 04/28/2023 7:13:37 AM PDT by bigbob
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ridesthemiles wrote: “I know a number of persons who will vote TRUMP or no one. Me included”

Have you enjoyed the Biden presidency?


12 posted on 04/28/2023 7:14:51 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ckilmer
the worst part about it is that the republicans don’t seem interested in recognizing the problem

That's because it's not a problem to them.

13 posted on 04/28/2023 7:15:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing )
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To: ridesthemiles

Several weeks ago there was a poll that asked who you voted for in the last presidential election.

If someone answered “Trump” they were then asked if they would vote for the Republican nominee if it were not Trump.

30% said no.


14 posted on 04/28/2023 7:17:01 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: ridesthemiles
I know a number of persons who will vote TRUMP or no one. Me included

Same here. FtheGOPe.

15 posted on 04/28/2023 7:20:49 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Polls are tools to get a vague picture of perhaps what might happen. Theyre to always be taken with a grain of salt.


16 posted on 04/28/2023 7:31:45 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: SeekAndFind

Polls are how the powers-to-be manage expectations, so that people aren’t shocked when the designated uniparty candidate “wins”.

The polls are totally rigged, just like the actual election.

There is a huge permanent, unelected bureaucracy that holds all the power - and any populist candidate actually chosen by the people is a mortal threat to them.

It’s not about Republicans vs. Democrats, Conservative vs. Liberal, Right vs. Left or even Capitalist vs. Marxist. They couldn’t let Bernie Sanders win either - because he had an actual following.


17 posted on 04/28/2023 7:43:07 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
Just getting us lubed up for another rigged election.

In 2020, the commies knew that PDJT was going to win, in a landslide, so they had to prep the playing field for the steal.

Talking points on all of the msm was "When the polls close, President Trump will be winning, but once the mail in ballots are counted..."

18 posted on 04/28/2023 7:44:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Have you enjoyed the Biden presidency?

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Why don’t you ask suburban woman, independents, & Biden Republicans that question?


19 posted on 04/28/2023 8:09:25 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Eagles6

Just getting us lubed up for another rigged election.

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If it’s “rigged” we might as well stick with the 45th President.

At least we’ll get an entertaining campaign.


20 posted on 04/28/2023 8:11:32 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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