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BRICS Currency to Benefit Iran, Undermine US Dollar, Euro
MEHR ^ | Jul 9, 2023

Posted on 07/10/2023 2:17:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Reno89519
"No, we let supposed allies like India buy Russian oil without consequence. If we held firm, cut off those who cross us, and they need us more than we need them, then we’be be better off. Might makes right sounds quaint but we need to reestablish Pax Americana, not this whimpy apology and surrender mentality.


41 posted on 07/10/2023 3:06:03 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: Pox
Really, who in their right mind would trust anything to do with China, Iran and Russia as far as their currency is concerned? Who cares if it's backed by gold? That means absolutely nothing at present.

If the BRICS introduced a truly convertible in demand gold certificate (as Federal Reserve notes were when initially introduced), it would be a global game changer and spell the end of the seigniorage that Uncle Sam has enjoyed by cheating (inflating) the currency used to settle international trade.

Given the currency controls currently enforced by the BRICS most significant members, I doubt they will create a truly convertible currency. They can create a unit of account for settling their own trade, and if the Saudis jump on board with allowing the BRICS to purchase oil with it you’ll see a decline in the value of the dollar and the trillions we’ve printed will start making its way back home.

42 posted on 07/10/2023 3:06:21 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: C210N

“Stick a fork in the dollar, and the FED/IRS/DSC that it rode into town on.”

If you believed that, you would be at the bank right now after selling your home, cashing out all your investments, selling your house and converting every dollar into a ruble.

After all, the ruble will soon be pegged to gold and that makes rubles as good as gold.


43 posted on 07/10/2023 3:06:35 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Pox

Bingo


44 posted on 07/10/2023 3:07:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Pox
Trump tried to start us down the correct path

By increasing spending at hockey stick levels over what Obama spent?

45 posted on 07/10/2023 3:08:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Reverend Wright

Ah, but if we drilled our oil, we’d again be an energy exporter, if we brought industry back to the US, we’d be leading supplier. The problem is whether we have the self-respect and self-confidence as a national to be exceptional again. Too much of what we’ve seen over the past 30+ years is fatalism, defeatism, fear-mongering hysteria that is causing the US to shutdown, open our borders, and surrender.


46 posted on 07/10/2023 3:10:28 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: C210N; Pox

Basically, you argument is that the U.S. has problems (yes), but that other countries around the world don’t have problems, act responsibly, and aren’t subject to the same parties you decry.


47 posted on 07/10/2023 3:12:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
You can’t inflate non-paper currency?

That's right. You can't inflate a gold-based currency, if it's truly gold-based. The only way to increase the money supply is to dig more gold out of the ground.

48 posted on 07/10/2023 3:12:13 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Round Earther

I would wait at least until who wins elections in 2024.
President, Senate & House are all volatile in 2024.


49 posted on 07/10/2023 3:12:33 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politician DeSantis is there to build wealth. Trump is there to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: C210N; Pox
being a slave to glowBull Banksters

So the people you are decrying, are powerful enough to have complete control of the U.S., but somehow their influence doesn't extend anywhere else in the world. Seems like a pretty big oversight for such all powerful people.

50 posted on 07/10/2023 3:13:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Gunslingr3

From what I’ve read, the last true audit of the gold at Fort Knox was in 1953.

One argument against a new audit is that it would be too expensive. Not if you just do a count, then randomly check one bar out of every 50. Do that every five years or so. No big deal.

So I can’t see why cost would be a problem. There must be some other reason.


51 posted on 07/10/2023 3:13:58 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Round Earther

No it doesn’t. There are many examples where those holding fiat were out of luck at failed currency end-of-life, and transition to a new currency. I’d prefer to not have dollars NOR rubles.

Metals though a different story...


52 posted on 07/10/2023 3:14:05 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Leaning Right

I think that “audit” was just a bunch of press going thru one or two of the rooms at Fort Knox, to get a few pictures.


53 posted on 07/10/2023 3:14:58 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
--- "Western sanctions and outright theft are blowing up in the Biden Regime's face. What an incompetent bunch of assclown fags."

Crude, but effective. I agree.

When enough of the world learns it can do with the City of London and Wall Street, the Fed and ECB, one game is up and another is begun.

As observed elsewhere, I repeat:

At the beginning of this still young century, the US National Debt was about 5 trillion USD. After wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, and the so-called "drone wars" much under Peace-Prize Obama, in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Libya, some of them covert, and all under the somewhat nebulous "war on terror," the US National Debt is now over 32 trillion USD.

An increase of 27 trillion USD in 23 years.

What is assured is that this rapid growth in debt in part has paid for and continues to pay for military "projection of power," with as yet only abandonment of many of these areas, particularly Afghanistan and Biden's bumbling withdrawal. War materiel expended and abandoned in the billions of USD worth. What has been gained? Solidly won and consistently secured?

But without a doubt, the manufacturers of war materiel here have been highly profitable, and now stocks being expended in Ukraine show US materiel for our own defense degraded. Ergo the ramping up of munitions manufacturing to resupply. All in the context and frame of more than $32 trillion in rising debt.

The "war" on indebtedness is being lost. With it America weakens. Utterly avoidable.

Eisenhower foretold and advised: "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

It seems in this moment we are not "prospering together." And our "peaceful methods and goals" lie in tatters.

54 posted on 07/10/2023 3:15:13 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Reno89519
why support our corrupt system?.....

I am all for gold backed money......

55 posted on 07/10/2023 3:15:27 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Leaning Right
Look! It's "ALL" here!

Satisfied now?

56 posted on 07/10/2023 3:16:15 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: C210N

should we buy rubles?....yuen?....


57 posted on 07/10/2023 3:16:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: entropy12

“I would wait at least until who wins elections in 2024.
President, Senate & House are all volatile in 2024.”

So, it is your view that in 2024, by electing a Republican president, House and Senate, who by the way have been controlled by Republicans at various times over the last 20 years, will save the dollar from crashing?


58 posted on 07/10/2023 3:18:21 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: nickcarraway
That can't be wholly put upon him, but your point is not to be ignored.

My point was the decoupling from China and onshoring more of our goods was what President Trump tried to get us moving towards.

59 posted on 07/10/2023 3:18:34 PM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; Pox
Well, you are claiming that there is only paper based currency and gold-backed currency. Clearly, there are currencies that don't fall in either camp.

Also, I think you are jumping to a huge conclusion that BRICS countries are going to have a gold-backed currency, despite what they say. I don't think it's as easy as you think.

If you just said the U.S. made some big mistakes, I's agree. But your implied belief that all the countries besides the U.S. are infallible, honest, ethical, trustworthy, and are without a myriad of other problems is where you lose me.

60 posted on 07/10/2023 3:20:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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