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BART directors spar over California push to decriminalize fare evasion
San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | July 28, 2023 | By Alec Regimbal, SFGATE

Posted on 07/29/2023 12:16:50 AM PDT by thecodont

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To: thecodont

Just more reparations.


21 posted on 07/29/2023 5:59:43 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: thecodont

The U.S. has gone from “the land of the free”, to the “land of the freeloaders”.


22 posted on 07/29/2023 6:04:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("There's no cryin' in baseball and there's no ethics in politics!" )
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“This is how crime rates explode, and the Demonrats are 100% responsible for leading the crusade for criminals at the expense of law abiding citizens.”

A lot of Republicans got also suckered-in due to their ‘sympathy’ for the ‘downtrodden’, including lawmakers who bought into things like cash-bail is biased against blacks. Last time that I checked, there was only ONE SCALE for bail, not one scale for blacks and one scale for whites.


23 posted on 07/29/2023 7:24:19 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: thecodont
those who are caught evading a fare three or more times may face a misdemeanor charge, which could result in a fine of up to $400

That should be what happens after the FIRST time evading the fare.

24 posted on 07/29/2023 7:37:48 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: thecodont

Public transit systems could eliminate the vast majority of fare evasion via implementation of basic, readily available COTS and effective penalties, but there is only one problem:

They’d have to choose profit over liberalism.

This story is about the converse.


25 posted on 07/29/2023 8:06:47 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SpaceBar

You’ve omitted one part of the equation:

Such lines always accompany separate development plans for ‘multi-family unit housing’.

THAT is the reason for the shift, not BART alone. BART and the-like simply facilitate urban sprawl and the cited spread of crime. The policies are inseparable.

It’s occurring literally in EVERY blue state with a public transit system, destroying neighborhoods one by one (more accurately, a gross at a time).

It’s less about public transit than it is about the bureaucrats & politicians placing the criminals’ housing smack in the middle of family neighborhoods (all except their own).


26 posted on 07/29/2023 8:12:44 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: thecodont

I used BART for the very first time when taking an Alaskan cruise out of San Francisco. Parked at the Walnut Creek Station where there was covered parking for $6 a day (Saturday and Sunday were free). Got on the train easily enough with our luggage and lots of room around where we sat for keeping our luggage. Got off in downtown SF and walked to the ship. If we were flying out of SFO we would have just stayed on the train. The train and stations were clean and we felt safe at all times. I don’t know why anyone would not take BART to SFO. No traffic, tolls etc. to deal with. Obviously, BART is trying to change its image and from what I saw they did a good job. So now a racist California politician is saying that black people are too dumb to pay the fare and shouldn’t face criminal charges.


27 posted on 07/29/2023 9:05:17 AM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
I know! We'll all switch to mass transit!

28 posted on 07/29/2023 9:16:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: period end of story

Darker than my current ‘tan’ from working in the sun.


29 posted on 07/29/2023 10:01:16 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Decriminalization doesn't reduce crime it just makes the California hellhole LOOK like it has less crime.

Fewer thefts, fewer 'turn stile jumpers'...covering the reality tjat it's more thefts, more turn stile jumpers' and soon to be many many moire...

And that's the whole game for democrats... trick the press bimbos and pretentious men who can't do math or read statistics into believing there's less crime when it's just plain old fashioned lying. And more crime. Guess fooling the idiots is easy since they want to be fooled by democrats.

30 posted on 07/29/2023 10:20:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Treason, or betraying the United States, is making war against the United States. Travis translation)
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To: rlmorel

“Broken Windows Policing”


31 posted on 07/29/2023 10:20:55 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: thecodont

“the enforcement of fare evasion rules is disproportionately used against people of color.”

It could not possibly be because people of color disproportionately evade fares.

It could not be!


32 posted on 07/29/2023 10:22:55 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: GOPJ

“fooling the idiots is easy since they want to be fooled by democrats.”

One set of future crime victims are foreign tourists who are unable to get accurate crime statistics online.

They get to discover the “culture” of the natives the hard way.


33 posted on 07/29/2023 10:25:07 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Max in Utah

Yes, of course that was what I meant to say. However, in today’s world, “broken glass policing” is a more accurate term, IMO, though I stumbled on it accidentally.

Thank you for the correction, however.


34 posted on 07/29/2023 10:26:35 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: SpaceBar
Yeah, the year after the Dublin/Pleasanton line opened, there was a shooting on July 4th on the midway at the Alameda County Fair.

Since then, organizers close the Alameda County Fair at 6:00pm on July 4.

p.s. the Richmond line transfer to the Dublin/Pleasanton line in Oakland.

-PJ

35 posted on 07/29/2023 10:33:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cgbg

Good point. That does happen.


36 posted on 07/29/2023 10:39:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (Treason, or betraying the United States, is making war against the United States. Travis translation)
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To: thecodont
Hey, if you can walk out with $950 worth of loot and not get charged with anything, why shouldn't you be able to steal a ride?

It's not like you're a racist or something.

37 posted on 07/29/2023 10:54:00 AM PDT by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Political Junkie Too

In a fair world, BART would be sued out of existence for the damage they caused.


38 posted on 07/29/2023 11:13:47 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: cgbg

“the enforcement of fare evasion rules is disproportionately used against people of color.”

It could not possibly be because people of color disproportionately evade fares.

It could not be!


All you have to do is stand by a BART set of fare gates and watch who jumps the turnstile. There is definitely a pattern.

Some BART stations have erected barriers above fare gates which eliminate the possibility of jumping (at least there).


39 posted on 07/29/2023 11:39:43 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: lowbridge

“Bryan, a Democrat from Los Angeles, said that he authored the bill because he believes the enforcement of fare evasion rules is disproportionately used against people of color.”

Translation: most fare beaters are black.

I guess if most people arrested for murder are black, then the solution is we need to decriminalize murder.


Good point.

It’s funny how they start crying about how enforcement of laws is racist in intent when it impacts one race (generally) in effect. Intent = effect/impact, in their minds.


40 posted on 07/29/2023 11:43:17 AM PDT by thecodont
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