Posted on 08/30/2023 9:28:59 AM PDT by MeganC
“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.
Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia has the right to go to war with NATO.
Writing on Twitter, now X, he said: "Ukrainian criminals have announced that any strikes of theirs against whatever Russian target, “for example, in Crimea” were approved by NATO."
"If it is true – and there is no reason to doubt it is – then, this is a direct legally significant proof of the West’s complicity in the war against Russia. It is a refined casus belli, and for Russia, it is an opportunity to act within the jus ad bellum framework against each and every NATO country."
Part of just war theory, which was first developed in ancient Greece and is still used by some Christians today, casus belli is an act or situation that morally justifies conflict, with jus ad bellum referring to conditions under which a state can resort to war.
Ukrainian forces have repeatedly attacked Crimea, occupied by Russia in 2014, in a bid to liberate the Black Sea peninsula. Western capitals provided Kyiv with weaponry and equipment after Russia invaded in February 2022, though it is unclear if they are providing more direct military assistance.
Medvedev has often taken to social media to write provocative and inflammatory statements about the Ukraine war and its Western allies.
He is widely seen as a stopgap for Vladimir Putin, serving as prime minister during the 2000s, while Putin changed the constitution to allow him another presidential term.
In Tuesday's tweet, Medvedev warned "apocalypse" was "drawing nearer", quoting biblical verse and old Soviet leaders.
These included: “And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them,” from Revelation 9:6, the final book of the New Testament in the bible.
He then added: “We are remembered until we stand in the others’ way,” attributed to Vladimir Lenin, who led the Bolshevik Revolution and was the Soviet Union's first leader.
Medvedev, Russia's Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, ended the tweet with a notorious quote from former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev that was made to Western ambassadors in 1956.
"Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you," it read.
At the time, the phrase was received very negatively in the West. However, modern translators have since suggested Khrushchev's words were mistranslated.
Most of Medvedev's past threats have rung hollow or provoked ridicule online from large numbers of social media users.
In May, he referred to the Baltics as belonging to Russia, adding Poland was "temporarily occupied" due to NATO's presence inside the country, including 10,000 US troops, according to AP.
The three small Baltic States - Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia - were occupied by the USSR until it collapsed in 1991. The Soviet Union is viewed negatively by large swathes of the population, who have embraced their future within the EU and NATO.
Worries have grown in the Baltics about the threat posed by Russia since it invaded Ukraine last February. The trio are vocal supporters of Kyiv, providing aid, arms and hosting significant populations of Ukrainian refugees.
Though not directly in the USSR, Poland was a satellite state of the Soviet Union. The communist system, which was popularly perceived as corrupt and ineffectual, collapsed in 1989.
Since it was invaded by Russian troops, Western states have provided Ukraine with crucial military and financial assistance, essential to the country's self-defence.
In April, it was revealed special forces from the West were on the ground in Ukraine, though it was unclear what exactly they were doing.
Medvedev, who served as Russian PM between 2000 - 2004, has emerged as a virulent anti-West, pro-war voice within the Kremlin. He was once considered a pro-Western democrat.
Thanks for that point well made.
The world is coup-ing, everywhere, shaking off their capitulation to USA, and subjugation to Life with Victoria Nuland and the medaled Vindeman twins.
Deplaning from the oil dollar is their freedom.
We will soon do the same. BRICS = 80% of world’s oil.
“Name a SINGLE NATO MEMBER that has not invaded Russia.”
No NATO member has ever invaded Russia.
NATO did not exist before 1949.
“We’ve got a bottom of the food chain military.”
Now, hold on! We have things Russia can NEVER match! We have senior officers in dresses, rainbow flags, drag queens on the front lines and pink tanks. Also, diversity is our STRENGTH!
He has lost his mind. From a very moderate President to a raving lunatic. Sad to see.
Portugal has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Spain has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Bulgaria has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Denmark has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Norway has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Canada has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Hungary has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
The Czech Republic has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Slovenia has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Romania has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Albania has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Belgium has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Croatia has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Iceland has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Luxembourg has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Montenegro has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
North Macedonia has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Slovakia has never in its entire existence invaded Russia.
Did you know the three Baltic nations, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of NATO?
If Russia attacks them, the rest of NATO, which is virtually all of Europe, and North America, will be obligated to go to war for them.
There hasn’t been a Europe-wide war since 1945.
I can’t conceive of any Russian attacking a NATO member. They’re not stupid.
“It might take a few days longer than in 2018 but still...”
Like 1914, “We’ll be home by Christmas!”
You are guilty of the False Dilemma Fallacy.
It is possible to do two or more things at once.
Regards,
“I can’t conceive of any Russian attacking a NATO member. They’re not stupid.”
The Russians proved their stupidity and arrogance when they thought they could seize Ukraine unopposed. Now it remains to be seen what the limits of Russian stupidity look like.
How about NATO quit breaking signed Minsk Agreements? On the record, for lies to Russia.
How about NATO MIL “exercises” exercise somewhere else, besides Russia’s eastern flank, poking the bear.
How about NATO remove the nuclear potential from the sites near border of Russia.
How about NATO buzz off from diddling in bio-weapon labs in UKR.
How about NATO ending the jackboot AZOV BATTALION out of the Donbass, where the people are traditional Russian and voted to be federated by Russia.
Now the Azov is dead. US is out of uranium and minerals. Russia’s got em and we want em.
Wake Up.
In this case the war really will be over by Christmas, because NATO/USA doesn’t have the industrial base to sustain a peer war on an ongoing basis..
If NATO/USA doesn’t win in the first couple of weeks - inevitable loss.
You seem to be a really big fan of other people being killed in regions that have no use of the USA.
The only thing that supports this is your new world order fantasy being driven by our own marxist regime.
We’re broke. We’re apparently machineless.
The USA is down for warring by proxy, using even poorer nations, to do so.
Our MIL commanders paint their nails.
Readiness is DEAD. Ask any forced-out general now retired.
I believe that to be true. I don’t expect the Russians to forever act the same way the US did in Iraq when arms and men were coming over from Syria with little to no intervention on our part.
I am dead set against any involvement whatsoever in Ukraine, war materials, or money. If we want to give money, it should be for humanitarian goals only, but even then, those monies cannot be protected against corruption and theft by the Ukrainian oligarchs.
I am no longer a believer in NATO. But we are still bound by treaties, which was why I am dead set against bringing in Ukraine to NATO, since it is a transparent effort to drag the United States in.
That said, if Russia attacks a NATO country, I would be on board with a full NATO response. Not just the United States. ALL of them, FULLY engaged with troops, arms, and money...although I am fully aware there are even Americans who wish for this to happen.
But that is the only circumstance apart from a direct attack on the United States where we should be involved.
Our tranny military could still obliterate Russia. It might take a few days longer than in 2018 but still...
It’s not just a Tranny military. It’s military with no industrial base behind it to keep it going.
The completion date for equipment install for the new 155mm ammunition production is 2026.
Yes, longer than the Manhattan Project to match a third of Russian shell production.
NATO is down to Nukes and so is USA. If the war mongering Biden doesn’t chill the war forever talk, Russia & China may be forced to shave our legs for us.
Ratheon, Northrop, etc , all the Pentagon besties.
I just hate bullies and thugs. That’s all.
Oh, and I tend to like them much better after they assume room temperature.
I just hate bullies and thugs. That’s all.
So, you hate America ?
Oh, so China invades Mongolia and your all in on USA involvement?
You would be all in if you knew potato head and congress was laundering money through Mongolia.
Why are you so replying to me?
I didn’t say a thing about our readiness. I just pointed out that an attack on NATO requires NATO to respond.
NATO knows this, might not want it, and might not be ready... But are obligated. There wouldn’t be enough political juice for them to weasel out.
But neither is Russia ready to fight NATO, in fact, they’d be in worse shape DUE to the ongoing war they’re already in, so they won’t attack NATO. That’s just silly.
As I said, the Russians aren’t stupid.
Relax.
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