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Breaking: Arizona Secretary of State Says He’s Figuring Out Whether or Not to Disqualify Trump From 2024 Ballot
The Gateway Pundit ^ | August 30, 2023 | Jordan Conradson

Posted on 08/30/2023 5:37:43 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

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To: Macho MAGA Man
This was always the plan. Of many plans.

It's crazy to me that they run around for decades squawking about democracy, every vote counts, count every vote, threats to democracy and so forth and they pull this FASCIST BS. I'm not saying I'm surprised only that it's crazy. Crazy and unAmerican.

61 posted on 08/30/2023 7:56:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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To: PermaRag

You have a good point, hard to imagine any other state that is corrupt as AZ is when it comes to elections. But hey, if the libtards want to start a civil war in any state this is the way to do it.


62 posted on 08/30/2023 7:56:50 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Macho MAGA Man; All
Thank you for referencing that article Macho MAGA Man.

"Breaking: Arizona Secretary of State Says He’s Figuring Out Whether or Not to Disqualify Trump From 2024 Ballot"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

If Pence and Congress had upheld their oaths to protect the 12th Amendment (12A; electoral vote rules) on J6 by voting to investigate allegations of vote-counting fraud, then all of us would know the following about that amendment. (Consider that Pence and Congress rammed electoral votes on J6 possibly so that 12A would get as little public attention as possible.)

The 12th Amendment reasonably indicates that electors are free to write-in any names for president and vice president that they want to, the only restriction being that both write-in candidates cannot reside in state that elector represents.

Excerpted from 12A:

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President [emphasis added], and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate, ..."

Patriots need to wake up to the idea that the electoral college is primarily intended to elect wartime Commander-in-Chief of Armed forces, with peacetime power to negotiate treaties.

After all, the electoral college is major overkill for concerns about who runs the peacetime US Mail Service, the mail service one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutional given to the feds to dictate peacetime domestic policy.

In other words, most federal domestic policy now is wrongly based on state powers that the very corrupt, constituently undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments have stolen, and continue to steal, from the states, the political parties evidently having no intention of surrendering state powers back to the states.

That being said, patriots need to get ready ASAP to support hopeful Trump 47 by primarying ALL state and federal, lawmakers and executives, except for MTG, Gaetz (and others?), for the 2024 primaries.

After all, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.

Exclusive: Marjorie Taylor Greene ‘Dumbfounded’ GOP Colleagues Will Not Call for Biden’s Impeachment! (6.10.23)

As previously mentioned, consider that, since one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the big, bad federal government to dictate peacetime domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service, the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably a delay with mail delivery.

Trump can endorse candidates from lists that patriots who respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers provide for him, as long as candidates are not incumbents, candidates also promising to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A) after they win office.

Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for taxpayers for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.

The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.

Patriots, let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for third time in 2024 by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties and likewise corrupt MSM that have pirated control of state and federal governments.

63 posted on 08/30/2023 8:01:09 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

What an educational post. Thanks for posting. I learned a great deal reading it.


64 posted on 08/30/2023 8:08:01 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: newzjunkey

It’s total insanity.


65 posted on 08/30/2023 8:09:10 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Where is SCOTUS? If there is no legit conviction for insurrection - these totalitarian communists can’t do it. I do hope there are some solid 2nd amendment types in AZ ready to appear at the Secy of State’s office in Phoenix


66 posted on 08/30/2023 8:09:24 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

“ We don’t have a free country.‘

Nope. Not in any way, shape or form.


67 posted on 08/30/2023 8:12:55 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: PermaRag

In states without Trump on ballot run “unpledged electors” who vote Trump when electors meet. If a communist bureaucrat tries to stop it, then congress can recognize those electors as being Trump. Pence wont be around, and if GOP controls both chambers Harris cant stop them


68 posted on 08/30/2023 8:18:09 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Depends on how much the bozo likes his paycheck. Either way, if Trump wants on the ballot, he’ll be on it.


69 posted on 08/30/2023 8:21:47 PM PDT by bgill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is.
We’re going to only be allowed to vote for those the establishment approves us voting for


70 posted on 08/30/2023 8:24:22 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Adrian Fontes has a death wish?


71 posted on 08/30/2023 8:28:41 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
...... Democrats are commiting serious Election Interference violations in an attempt to show, without evidence, that Trump interfered with an election.

..... Very curious beasts these people are ..... Sadly they will probably get away with this!

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72 posted on 08/30/2023 8:28:53 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: Macho MAGA Man

SoS=Sack-o-S}{!t


73 posted on 08/30/2023 8:30:24 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

In 1860, Democrats in Southern States removed Republican Abraham Lincoln from their ballot in their attempt to keep him from winning the presidency. Their failure to keep from the office lead directly to the Civil War.

Is history about to repeat?


74 posted on 08/30/2023 8:31:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce ( )
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To: shalom aleichem

As soon as Roberts retires.


75 posted on 08/30/2023 8:46:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
This will not play well in America.

It's playing fine in New America. Biden is paying off student loans and Trump is still a racist. /s

76 posted on 08/30/2023 8:57:11 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Revel
If worse come to worse then conservative controlled states need to remove the democrat candidate from the ballot.

It would come to that, and the situation would put our national ass in a sling. Pro-Trump people would only count states which put Trump on the ballot, and the Bidenistas would only count states with Joe on the ballot. In effect it would be two distinct elections (with some overlap), and neither election result would be truly legitmate. Whichever camp tried to enforce their version of the election outcome would probably faced armed resistance from the other camp.

At that point Constitutional government would have failed and only the military could sort things out.

77 posted on 08/30/2023 9:24:17 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

By this standard, states with Republican governors and legislatures can force Biden off their ballots using unproven accusations of high crimes and misdemeanors.


The dems are using the language of the 14th Amendment to try and keep Trump off of the ballot. The 14th Amendment says nothing about disqualifying because of accusations of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Biden would have to be impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate with a specific declaration about further public office. That, of course, just is not going to happen.

The dems have publicly and repeatedly claimed that January 6 was an ‘insurrection’. Of course that is absurd, but that is the lie that they are putting out and who, short of the people in their states or the Supreme Court are going to stop them?


78 posted on 08/30/2023 9:25:05 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

This is monsensical posturing

Any attemp to do this will result in court case which will go to the Supreme Court and they will lose and Trump will be on the ballot.


79 posted on 08/30/2023 9:31:01 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: hanamizu
Biden would have to be impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate with a specific declaration about further public office.

Nope, not under the rules the Democrats are playing by. Trump has been convicted of nothing. He hasn't even been charged with insurrection in any court of law. If a state official can seek to keep Trump off his state's ballot simply because that state official accuses Trump of insurrection, any Republican can state official can play the same game with Biden.
80 posted on 08/30/2023 9:33:12 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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