Posted on 09/01/2023 7:21:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Trump team is spreading a new election conspiracy theory: Brian Kemp is defending the results of the 2020 election because he is hiding the fact that Kemp stole the 2022 race from Stacey Abrams.
That’s pretty impressive. Stone apparently believes that Kemp somehow invented 300,000 votes out of thin air, but left Trump behind. If he can do that then maybe he should be the next Republican candidate because he is a sure thing.
The alternative, of course, is simpler: Trump isn’t as popular in Georgia as Brian Kemp is, and I would suggest that it is because of this sort of crap that he isn’t.
Stone is one of the loonies that Trump likes to hang around with because they enable his worst characteristics, not his best. They tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear. Stone and Trump have been political allies since the 1990s and he is often by his side, so it’s not like this is some deviation from the Trump team line, just as is true with Laura Loomer’s insanity.
Trump is at his best when his instincts and bias for action are married to the wise counsel of the more sober around him. Many of the people that Trump now disdains and calls traitors from his time as president are the ones who helped him be a very good president most of the time. As much as Trump likes to assert that he is and was surrounded by traitors, he also keeps reminding us that he accomplished a great deal.
He did so with those people by his side. As each of them has abandoned him during his post-presidency because of his quixotic and often self-destructive behavior he has become more and more nasty and surrounded himself with sycophants like Laura Loomer and Roger Stone–the kind of people who bring out the worst in Trump rather than the best.
I liked Trump at his best, and loathe him at his worst.
Brian Kemp didn’t steal the 2022 election from Stacey Abrams. The truth is that rightly or wrongly Kemp believes that Trump lost Georgia fair and square and is unwilling to lie about it.
Guess what? Lying is a bad trait, and while common enough in politics it is hardly something to be admired. How many of us hate politicians because they are a bunch of liars? Count me in that camp.
I know I spend too much time on Twitter–it is an occupational hazard that allows me to write so much about such a wide range of topics. A side effect of spending so much time there is that I have grown more sour on Trump and his minions every day. In 2019 and 2020 I was doing the impossible every day with my friends: defending Trump against the constant smears. I had a hard time not hating the people who were so indifferent to the truth that they would say anything if it harmed the other guy.
That is what Trump and his minions are doing now, and it is just as disgusting. Every Trump “influencer” repeats the same tired lines about Trump’s opponents and regurgitates the most fanciful and slanderous attacks.
It works, apparently, but it is disgusting. It worked against Trump during his term–millions of Americans still believe that the 2016 election was stolen by Russia–and just as that infuriates Trump supporters this slander by Trump’s team should infuriate you too.
Roger Stone, Laura Loomer, Alex Bruesewitz, and the Trump team are liars and grifters. They have contempt for you, clearly, since they think you will buy anything no matter how insane.
If Trump is the Republican nominee I will vote for him while holding my nose, but every time I encounter another slanderous attack from a Trump influencer it makes my blood boil.
Trump and his minions have specifically targeted the best the Republicans have–Kemp, Youngkin, DeSantis, and Kim Reynolds specifically because they are exceptional at governing. The better they are the smaller Trump looks by comparison. That doesn’t mean they would be better presidents–you never know for sure until somebody actually does the job–but Trump has an obvious need to be “the only one” who can save us.
That is his pitch, so he has to ruin everybody else who looks good.
Some of you think I am a never-trumper and take cheap shots. If so, defend against these sorts of attacks.
Trump and his influencers have suggested that Kemp stole the 2022 election, that Stacey Abrams and Charlie Crist would be better governors than the Republicans kicking butt in their offices, that Ron DeSantis is light in his loafers and has a “tiny D,” and that Casey DeSantis faked her cancer diagnosis.
Do you admire that? And if not on what moral high ground do you stand if you dislike others saying they don’t?
Trump has a record to run on, and until 2020 it was a very good one. Why isn’t he running on it?
I want to see the best from Trump, not the worst. I haven’t seen that particular Donald Trump in a long time. I would like to see him again.
UPDATE: Changed the dates on the Kemp/Abrams election.
One of the FR Top Five.
We lost one several months ago. I don't miss him. :)
Thank you. Unlike you I have nothing to back me up except instinct. I know Kemp is in this up to his neck.
Don’t forget who was appointed SOS in 2010 and bought the election equipment used by a Georgia voters.
I doubt that person would want to agree with Trump’s claims because it would bring unwanted attention about the competence and integrity of the person that was SOS and installed the voting framework.
I’m trying to understand you point.
You either think:
1) We can’t spell in Georgia
2) We don’t accept people from other states
3) Or you are insinuating that we are all a bunch of inbred backwood hicks and don’t know how to speak English
I just felt the need to let you know that either reason reflects more about your assumptions than on our level our intelligence.
Now Go Dawgs!
This is the real story that helps put into context why Kemp has ALWAYS refused to open the door into voting system concerns.
It seems as if he doesn’t want to have anyone digging into the topic regardless if it is a Republican or Democrat.
Makes me scratch my chin and wonder why???
Oh you are right, I forgot about that.
I think that since both candidates were and are Deep State, if Deep State did screw with that election, it was just for practice.
Kemp is Toast in Georgia now!! The GOPe can try all you want to prop that Little Worm up but we have seen thru His BS. I’m hoping Trump spends a bunch of time in Georgia hammering on him!!! Praying Kemp thinks he can win the next U.S. Senate seats so I can vote against him!!! I think his staff is tired of me telling them what a worthless POS I think he is!!
I will accept weasel as the final answer. lol
Dumb move by stone.
Some times I do ... sometimes I don't
but that's not the subject here.....is it?
I'll try to clarify ...
David Strom of hotair.com is a douche bag.
I was trying to express a comment toward him in terms that matched his obvious impression of the people of Georgia.
I'm sure he thinks Deliverance is a documentary.
I have been walking the wilds of the Proud state of Georgia for 55 years plus. My wife speaks fluent southern bell ... she can butter a bisket just by saying “bless your heart”
We still resist the occupation of the invading armies of the north.
If I have offended the sensibilities of a fellow Georgian, rest assured sir, that was not my intent.
I posted a line on an other thread .. to the point of “welcoming our new rotund overlord” a bit of sarcasem if you will.
Some of my comments fly right over the crowed ... some fall flat ... it's a quandary?
Indeed. Even if one thinks they don’t have all the facts of a situation to definitively say they believe it’s true, when there are enough facts and or unusual circumstances to start questioning the “No, it’s not true, stop the conspiracy” stance, that’s when you know you are dealing with someone who is incredibly stubborn or who has an agenda.
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Brian Kemp "won" his election by nefarious means.
Now he's gotta play ball or it all comes out in the open.
If that doesn't work they'll start blowing up young people close to him who have their whole future ahead of them.
Oh wait...
I will give her this. When she lost, instead of just complaining (she did). She went around the state registering people who never voted before. I think it’s been effective. I’d like to see republicans do the same.
RE GA politics ... Around 1970, the movie “Deliverance” was made in beautiful N GA. It was a huge success and GA started incentivizing movie-making. GA is now #1 world-wide in film production. This changed GA forever as “movie peeps” are about as “un-southern” (i.e. liberal) as it gets imo.
Stone is right.
Republicans look the other way on cheating and voter fraud to stay in power.
we all KNEW the GA GOP establishment was rino/corrupt/deepstate... at the core of our being.
the fact is we have not had a clean election in this country for a very long time... the PTB keep their own books and balance sheets... and our elections, are cover for their false governance ‘magic’ hat.
it the larger, political sense... China was Nixon’s mistress and became our Nation’s mistress starting that day... he said “i will go to china”
Roger Stone is an amazingly smart and knowledgeable guy with a history of experience in real politics unmatched by anyone on this board.
When he speaks it is time to pay attention.
Sounds like Georgia is getting spookier by the day must be something in the water.
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