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Ukraine breaks through enemy lines in Russia-controlled south: ‘Russian losses are really staggering’
The New York Post ^ | October 21, 2023 | Matthew Sedacca

Posted on 10/22/2023 6:35:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
So the NYPost has no original reporting, but rather pass-through from ISW, Zelensky and the Ukrainian Foreign Minister, via a website, a Telegram channel and a pass-through from Ukraine to the Telegraph to the NYPost.

And the gullibles scarf it right down with a knife and fork.

I’m with Trump on this. Stop all of the dying. The left wants to keep this going because a lot of bad people are making lots of money off of this.

But so many people are being killed on both sides to enable the crooks’ bank accounts getting fatter.

TRUMP: “I want everybody to stop dying. They're dying. Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I'll have that done in 24 hours I'll have it done. You need the power of the presidency to do it.”

21 posted on 10/22/2023 7:30:19 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: ganeemead

Troll.


22 posted on 10/22/2023 7:31:43 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: All

Zelensky should stop Gaslighting Americans .......

We’re onto him......he’ll say anything to get billions of our tax dollars.


23 posted on 10/22/2023 7:33:30 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Timber Rattler
Keep dreaming. Soon the Russians will be pushed back to their pre invasion position.
24 posted on 10/22/2023 7:35:01 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Ganeemead, for one. He seems to broadcast it every time he posts here.


25 posted on 10/22/2023 7:36:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Allegra
--- "The left wants to keep this going because a lot of bad people are making lots of money off of this. But so many people are being killed on both sides to enable the crooks’ bank accounts getting fatter."

This is a key point to the whole. Money. Cui bono?

Given the truly UN-AMERICAN urge to put more onto the national credit card -- over a trillion in only the last months -- to spend for war, those who support the neo-con/neo-lib "war is a racket" themes are greatly assisting in driving this nation into a debtor's prison.

Debt Clock

26 posted on 10/22/2023 7:36:07 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; Allegra
‘Russian losses are really staggering’

And just as April showers bring May flowers, here comes the Dept of Defense/State Dept feeding the Murdoch owned NY Post a #FakeNews story in an effort to get a new $50bn dollar supplemental from our compliant congress.

#Till the last Ykranian!

27 posted on 10/22/2023 7:36:33 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Are you saying the Ukrainian forces didn’t advance? Do you have your own intelligence network?


28 posted on 10/22/2023 7:37:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Allegra

So now we’re looking to Nancy Pelosi for analysis? That’s a first.


29 posted on 10/22/2023 7:39:22 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Allegra
TRUMP: “I want everybody to stop dying. They're dying. Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I'll have that done in 24 hours I'll have it done. You need the power of the presidency to do it.”

Trump will give Zelensky a lot of money and arms if he agrees to the cease fire. Otherwise, Trump will cut Zelensky off. But it doesn't matter anyway. There's a low chance that Trump will win. Biden is probably going to win the reelection. This war mat last for another five years. Vietnam took a long time. So did Afghanistan. But I think it will become more of a low intensity war. Nothing like Bakhmut.

30 posted on 10/22/2023 7:39:39 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: popdonnelly
So now we’re looking to Nancy Pelosi for analysis? That’s a first.

You are? Not that I should be surprised.

I quoted Trump, not your hero, the crook Pelosi. Why are you Zeepers so enamored of crooks?

31 posted on 10/22/2023 7:45:37 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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As Rand Paul says, we are not sending money to Ukraine.

We are borrowing money from China, paying interest on it, and sending the borrowed money to Ukraine.

You all do realize that when that war ends and we don’t sent money anymore (or do we? Maybe not if Russia wins, but maybe even then) that we’ll still be paying interest on that money each and every year even though nothing is going on there anymore?

We don’t spend money we have. We spend money we borrow, and then pay interest on it forever.


32 posted on 10/22/2023 7:53:35 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: popdonnelly
--- "Ganeemead, for one. He seems to broadcast it every time he posts here."

Interesting. As best his InForum links show, he posts from Hindustan Times (India) and a few others which does is not so much balance any sort of vast pro-Zelensky postings, such as those of UMCrevmom and SpeedyInTexas. Additionally, those which he posts seem to critique the Zelensky government than praise the Putin government. So, any notion of him being an admirer of Putin seems unsupported though clearly he is a critic of Zelensky.

Personally so many of the war-porn YouTube channels a make me laugh, with their Hollywood music underscoring and such, right out of the YouTube playbook.

How to Write a Perfect YouTube Title That GETS CLICKS!!!

How to Write Catchy Titles for Your Blog Posts

But since you asserted "Freepers" plural, aside from ganeemead, who is more than able to respond for himself, have you another, or have you exhausted your list?

On balance, the pro-Z Freepers seem to outweigh the seeming pro-P crowd, while I wager most Freepers are crucially concerned about this nation's rapidly rising national debt AND national deficit.

So to avert our eyes from these, "Squirrel! Look over there!" seems so necessary to some. While to others, "More debt! More debt!" seems the theme. Money. It's what your kids and grandkids will be burdened with, in the moment to the tune of more than $250K each.

33 posted on 10/22/2023 7:55:55 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Owen
--- "We don't spend money we have. We spend money we borrow, and then pay interest on it forever."

Yup.

--- SpeedyInTexas wrote to me and I answered: "US National Debt doesn't need to be paid off. Just serviced. Ample abilities to do that." Did you really opine in this manner? Wow.

"A perpetual bond is a bond with no maturity date that theoretically pays interest forever." So you think US citizens should be in perpetual debt and only "service" the debt? Others call that involuntary servitude.

Perpetual bond - Wikipedia

An Overview of Perpetual Bonds - Investopedia

Perpetual Bond - Formula, Duration, Valuation, What is it?

Know What is Perpetual Bond & Who Issues it?

As to "ample abilities" to "service" debt, most Americans haven't ample abilities of which you write.
US median per capita $65K

Less than $50k -- 60.96% of population.
Circa $50k-$100k -- 24.61% of population
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More than $100k -- 14.43% of population.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States

--- "We don't spend money we have. We spend money we borrow, and then pay interest on it forever."

Yup. That's the REAL context in which all these "send more money" arguments go on.

35 posted on 10/22/2023 8:03:17 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“ The Ukrainian military broke through the enemy lines after intensified assaults across the Dnipro River, near the southern city of Kherson.”

They did make a significant advance compared to the small advances they had been making. But this is not the beginning of the end.


36 posted on 10/22/2023 8:03:56 AM PDT by Brilliant
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This is good news!

We don't have to give aid to Ukraine anymore, right?

How can a country that's winning continues to beg for more money and military equipment to finish the job?

37 posted on 10/22/2023 8:05:03 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: popdonnelly
This will upset some Freepers who only follow Russian propaganda.

Yeah, I'm really angry here. Sooo mad.

38 posted on 10/22/2023 8:07:25 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Owen

Another thing about debt, brought in the glare of astonishment by Greece in 2013.

There is no such thing as sovereign default.

If you think the answer to $33T is declare bankruptcy and default, think again. There are no international sovereign bankruptcy courts. It doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t work at all.

If you run a business and it is overwhelmed, there is a bankruptcy court you go to and arrange settlement or outright liquidation.

No such thing exists internationally for countries. Greece wanted to default and threatened to and it was globally systemic because there were Credit Default Swaps out there on their sovereign debt that would amplify the effect.

They were told in no uncertain terms . . . no. No. You will not do this. You will borrow more money to bring that debt up to date. We don’t care what your people vote for. You will obey or you will have all oil embargoed and food will not travel to store shelves.

Of course they folded.

So if you think you can default on the US 33T . . . no, there will be no oil blockade, but there will also be no imports. No one will do business with the US anymore. How could they?
Military force used to force China to ship TVs? Do you really envision that? The US trade deficit is about $1T. Don’t think a global cutoff is endurable.


39 posted on 10/22/2023 8:07:27 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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--- "Are you saying the Ukrainian forces didn't advance? Do you have your own intelligence network?"

You made me snicker. Your questions are worthy of Cathy Newman of the BBC. Assert something not said within a question or two, and....

What I did say unequivocally is that your kids and grandkids are ALREADY burdened with more than $250,000 of debt, their "share" of the insane national debt. Want to ask a question about that?

40 posted on 10/22/2023 8:11:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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